IC vs OOC punishments | School grounds

[CTC0]

What's your Minecraft Username?: CTC0
What's the title of your suggestion?: IC vs OOC punishments | School grounds

What's your suggestion?:
Currently, it's part of OOC rules to be in school grounds during school times. At first it's understandable until you understand what this means...

1. No one can have their characters sneak out of school, which is kinda boring.
Before you explain that it's unrealistic, lemme just say that I personally went out of school grounds daily when it was against school rules, not "because delinquent" but because of other reasons I will not put here because that's private. (Oh I can hear you now, "HAHA! THAT MEANS IT IS!" nah bud)

2. People wanna continue their roleplays before doing school stuff, or maybe they wanna roleplay having their character being late for school? But they can't.
it's Japan, I know, no one seems to ever be late. But think about it, how many students are actually Japanese? If anything, it's unrealistic.

3. Irl, it makes no sense if someone suddenly disappears and reappears in school grounds.
Despite SRP claiming to be based around realism, this is the norm? I know you have the argument that the teleporting is voided, but how much time has been voided? How would that make sense after? What happens to the things you wanted your character to say/experience? I guess you could say your character blacks out and appears in school, but in that case the hospital will be FILLED constantly.

4. The basic annoyance of only logging on to check something or pay rent only to be teleported unwillingly.
I DIDN'T CONSENT TO BE TPED!!! *clears throat* anyways. You may have logged on just to pay your rent so you can RP without issues later on, but then you get teleported to school and now you gotta wait, what happens if your apartment runs out while in school? That's not fair, it's your place and real life happens, it's not your fault if you lose it, it's SRP's for teleporting you without actually needing to.

Extra:
Of course I'm not saying to completely rid of it, there should be a reason for being out of school like the listed above as an example, But I feel like a lot of people would be a lot happier, and maybe less people would quit too. I know a lot of people who I've managed to convince to play SRP, the moment they get TPed to school they say "Yeah this is stupid, I got stuff to do anyway" then they log off and never get online again.

How will this benefit the server and community?:
Honestly it would be less annoying, more convenient, and less people would be breaking the rules because it wouldn't be as strict of a rule anymore.

 

[flowersak]

-1

It's SchoolRP. We give everyone a leniency to get there before 8:30am. People will just not go to school if we don't have the rule, which defeats the purpose of it being schoolrp.

 

[Meika]

Neutral, leaning towards -1.

Unfortunately, like flowersak said, people will stop going to school at all if this is the case. The rule was originally added, I believe, because of people taking being off school grounds for granted.

I totally understand the apartment thing, it's definitely a huge annoyance and inconvenience, but just too many people would misuse this rule if it was completely removed.

I'm not sure how staff could go about being more lenient with it / less strict, but I don't think they could remove the rule entirely. I would love leniency here! But there's also just too many new players who come in every day and will completely not go to school at all.

The rule removes role-playing opportunities, but it also creates some, as its an advantage for new players to meet people since majority of players have to be in one space. It does suck sometimes, but it is helpful for greenies when theyre making friends for the first time and dont know where to start.

 

[DinoNuggys]

-1

 

[frenzyyy]

-1

Whilst it can be a fun idea to be a delinquent that runs out of school or skips school occasionally, this would never be roleplayed out properly and wouldn't work on a server where over half the students are delinquents. This would turn into just people skipping school and never attending. Eventually, there would be around 10 people in total attending school and that would defeat the whole purpose of the server. The main focus of this roleplay and server as said above is School.

"Less people would be breaking the rules" should also not be an excuse to change a rule

 

[urufu]

-1

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As people above have said, it's SchoolRP. You are given plenty of time to get to school in the morning.

 

[Barbie_]

-1
I would elaborate but frenzy summarised it perfectly

 

[Miamorchito]

-1

One thing that comes to my mind, though, is a command that helps you check how many days you have left on your property. That way, you don't have to leave school grounds and also don't have to wait hours to leave school grounds to check for a sign for one second. This could help in both giving leniency to SchoolRP and also valuing IRL times, since not all of us can wait until school ends. That is just my take on point 4.

 

[MaroonMacaron]

-1
Read Sak and Frenzy's replies

 

[Kayla1511]

-1

Hi, so I am apart of the Professor Faction and when we host classes we get 1-10 students, sometimes more. I personally haven't experienced a class with more fifteen people. Anyway so if what your suggesting would be added then SchoolRP would plummet, no one would attend school anymore, everyone would just skip, which defeats the whole purpose of SchoolRP.

< People wanna continue their roleplays before doing school stuff, or maybe they wanna roleplay having their character being late for school? >

Well, School starts at 7.30 am, students do not have to be present, on school grounds until 8.30 am. School ends at 3.30pm, that means you must be on school grounds for 7 hours ICly, which is 1 hour and forty five minutes (1h45). Then from 3.30 pm to 8.30am the next day you can RP however you'd like. (4h15).

< The basic annoyance of only logging on to check something or pay rent only to be teleported unwillingly.
I DIDN'T CONSENT TO BE TPED!!! *clears throat* anyways. You may have logged on just to pay your rent so you can RP without issues later on, but then you get teleported to school and now you gotta wait, what happens if your apartment runs out while in school? That's not fair, it's your place and real life happens, it's not your fault if you lose it, it's SRP's for teleporting you without actually needing to. >

Honestly, I understand this but, no one leaves rent to the last second, they leave rent for the last two to three hours, so even if school would have just started then you'd still be able to pay rent.

 

[CTC0]

Understandable, but hear me out. If this server is supposed to be a SCHOOL server, then what's the point of having a whole island? Doesn't that just make it CityRP? Why not just have a school campus with dorms and that's it?

 

[Miamorchito]

Honestly, I understand this but, no one leaves rent to the last second, they leave rent for the last two to three hours, so even if school would have just started then you'd still be able to pay rent.

You would also need to consider that people log in to check on rent rather than only paying it. You are right that most of us don't pay it last minute, but in the case of checking, why do we need to wait until school ends if the whole purpose of connecting was to see a sign for less than 10 seconds?

 

[Kayla1511]

Understandable, but hear me out. If this server is supposed to be a SCHOOL server, then what's the point of having a whole island? Doesn't that just make it CityRP? Why not just have a school campus with dorms and that's it?

I get that but if it was just a school server then it would get hella boring and everyone would just not play it anymore/much, factions are there to make it more interesting.

The News Faction is there to litterly comment and publish on every aspect of SRP.

The School Factions are there to well teach and make SchoolRP, a properly functionnal school.

The Police Faction is there to stop crime, let citizens report people, patrol and add a flair of reality into SRP.

The Government Faction is there to well.. be the Government of Karakura.

The ShopKeeper Faction is there to add player-ran shops in SRP, to make it more realistic.

I cannot comment on the Shrine faction :(.

 

[Kayla1511]

You would also need to consider that people log in to check on rent rather than only paying it. You are right that most of us don't pay it last minute, but in the case of checking, why do we need to wait until school ends if the whole purpose of connecting was to see a sign for less than 10 seconds?

Well in my opinion, I think everyone will just abuse this and just do something else, then when questioned by staff they'd just say 'I was on my way to check my property'. What should be suggested is a command that gives the player all the info of their property. So it would display the time left, how many people have access to it and the coords to it.

< /property info >

 

[GoodbyeRanden]

-1

plain and simple, 9/10 people on srp would likely dip school as a whole ultimately defeating the integrity of the server as a whole.

in addition for the teacher faction particularly this would also tank the amount of student we get by a good margin since many people usually just skip school as a whole then attend classes. And it’s not just teacher faction professors would also be getting even less college student then before which in some cases can inhibits their ability to do their job.

 

[CTC0]

-1 to neutral, leaning on -1 because you went wayyy too far with this

like 2 years ago i was talking about speeding up time during night because the main focus should be school..

'i dont wanna explain why i was skipping school but just know it wasnt because i wanted to be a delinquent but im not gonna say why'..?? this is such a stupid way to convey ur idea.

1: I'm pretty sure staff can give you permission to leave if its important and a good reason
2: what fun would it be to roleplay being late to school? 'heh.. sorry im late teach!' when half of grade students dont even go to classes
3: theyre voiding however long it would take for u to run/drive there
4:actually understandable, but im sure if u said ur about to log and u just want to pay rent Most staff would let u, i know a lot of them are really weird and uncapable soo..

overall i think the teleporting is way too fucking far, maybe set a timer saying 'be at school before this timer ends or you will be teleported'.

Ok dude no need to be rude about it, I literally explained that it was private, the point was that being a delinquent isn't the only reason, no need for name calling. Also when it comes to checking apartments, or anything in general, staff never ask before TPing, so you don't really have time to say you're about to log off :P

 

[CTC0]

because if it was just school purgatory? there wouldnt be any character development, a hospital, anything to do except go to class for the rest of your life

It's Minecraft, if people get bored they can log off. Also, just a suggestion.

 

[GloomyRP]

-1

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I am very much against the idea because the current teleport rules exist for a reason it's maintains structure and also promotes school related roleplay, which is the core of SRP.

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[CTC0]

Its just a suggestion, but its a bad one, which is why im commenting. Thats such a strawman argument 'its minecraft, you can log off if you want'. Thats not at all referring to what I was talking about, people need to be able to live outside of school for realism, you literally BROUGHT UP realism. . I would delete this suggestion if i was you, you cant take any criticism without thinking youre being lectured

Dude what? You didn't give me time to reply, so lemme do that regardless if you send more.
Mb, I saw the word stupid and assumed you were name calling, in general you're still coming off as rude but imma assume you were just upset because you assumed that I was being triggered/male karen?? Anyway, I'm not arguing with your criticism, I'm trying to understand it and comment on it so i can clear up thoughts, that's how these suggestion things work, I know I'm not getting lectured, well that was until you actually started lecturing me because again I assume you thought I was something I'm not.
I'm Autistic, I'm not great at words and social things, I find it hard to understand a lot of things, and therefore I was trying my best to understand and yes I do sometimes misunderstand things, being rude doesn't help.
I apologize in advance if you weren't trying to be rude in those other messages, but honestly they do come across as targeted and lecture-y?

 

[CTC0]

Its just a suggestion, but its a bad one, which is why im commenting. Thats such a strawman argument 'its minecraft, you can log off if you want'. Thats not at all referring to what I was talking about, people need to be able to live outside of school for realism, you literally BROUGHT UP realism. . I would delete this suggestion if i was you, you cant take any criticism without thinking youre being lectured

Also, why would I delete a suggestion? Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose??