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celexaprozac said:
It'll lead to more trouble than its worth unfortunately for the reasons I outlined above.
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think the most issue was about Ben said. People refuse to take care of kids in school hours. And others saying that is hard to build a elementary school. Considering how the space is small i do not doubt it even can be built. If had another way to represent kids around the city would be good, cause kids are in everywhere
 
Just because you don't utilise something or interact with it doesn't make it useless. I've had plenty of interesting interactions on my fish whitelist, including with other fish whitelists. I personally think that the points raised about the lack of children are valid, but again, the downsides outweigh the benefits forty to one. That said, I think I've exhausted everything I have to say about this that is constructive and will be electing to not reply further.
 
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As others have said, there is a multitude of issues that could arise and is being avoided by not having that sort of thing. As fun it could be to RP out being an actual child, its in SchoolRP’s best interest to not implement something like this, hence why its been denied.
 
celexaprozac said:
Just because you don't utilise something or interact with it doesn't make it useless. I've had plenty of interesting interactions on my fish whitelist, including with other fish whitelists. I personally think that the points raised about the lack of children are valid, but again, the downsides outweigh the benefits forty to one. That said, I think I've exhausted everything I have to say about this that is constructive and will be electing to not reply further.
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I understand. The part of course of Children whitelist. If some people on SRP weren't problematic (like trolls) the idea could certainly go further, but I don't think so completely.
 
Haneshii said:
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As others have said, there is a multitude of issues that could arise and is being avoided by not having that sort of thing. As fun it could be to RP out being an actual child, its in SchoolRP’s best interest to not implement something like this, hence why its been denied.
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It would enter also the Minecraft EULA too? May i ask. If that so, i will understand even more.
 
celexaprozac said:
Just because you don't utilise something or interact with it doesn't make it useless. I've had plenty of interesting interactions on my fish whitelist, including with other fish whitelists. I personally think that the points raised about the lack of children are valid, but again, the downsides outweigh the benefits forty to one. That said, I think I've exhausted everything I have to say about this that is constructive and will be electing to not reply further.
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Now fish whitelist, in sorry but i still think useless.
 
WhiteSnowy1737 said:
It would enter also the Minecraft EULA too? May i ask. If that so, i will understand even more.
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I’m unsure if it’s against Minecraft’s EULA, but there are more than enough reasons outside of the EULA that explain why this isn’t a good idea. Unfortunately we’re on the internet and we have to do what we can to ensure what we have on SchoolRP can’t be exploited and/or abused in the wrong way.
 
Haneshii said:
I’m unsure if it’s against Minecraft’s EULA, but there are more than enough reasons outside of the EULA that explain why this isn’t a good idea. Unfortunately we’re on the internet and we have to do what we can to ensure what we have on SchoolRP can’t be exploited and/or abused in the wrong way.
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Yeah. I wish internet was a better place
 
WhiteSnowy1737 said:
Read again everything i gave every example and point
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Now that I am home and don't have the wind blasting in my face, I'll go into more detail as to why I am against this.

1. "My character's just a child!!"
Trolls are annoying. Children are naturally pretty stupid and pretty mischievous. At the moment, characters that do stupid things get punished via detention or the KPD. You cannot give detention to a child outside of school and you cannot call the police on a 10 year old. This is already infuriating enough (especially for us at the shrine) when dealing with grade 7, 8, and 9 characters. Of which, are 13, 14, and 15 years old. A children whitelist actively enables this annoying behaviour that makes SRP aggravating instead of fun.
"But just walk away! If you don't want to engage, don't!"
Sadly this is not an option for many faction workers. The government and Shrine factions literally cannot walk away. The government are restricted to a tiny tiny space and the shrine cannot just ignore people due to the nature of our IC rules. Furthermore; we are also restricted to a small area.

2. School Time
Children below the age of 5 do not attend school. Thus they will be left to roam unless under the care of an adult tag which is very unlikely to happen. For children old enough to be in school, an entire new structure and faction would need to be organised. The teacher faction is hard enough when it comes to stress and being overwhelmed; but at least they are dealing with people who are capable of speaking fluently as opposed to a child who cannot differentiate a square from a triangle.

3. CrimeRP and Miss-Use
As of now, Grade-7, Grade-8, and Grade-9 tagged characters are not allowed to engage with GangRP and as far as I'm aware, CrimeRP (correct me if I'm wrong). This is because they cannot be arrested. This rule is already broken several times constantly and adding infants into the mix would only make the problem worse and again, more annoying for the majority.
This has been denied before, I wouldn't be surprised if it's been denied several times. Suggestions being denied is not a call to action to try and convince Kimi to add something - they are denied because the suggestion is not fit for the server. I really do not think that a server such as SRP has space for infant characters.
 
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urufu said:
Now that I am home and don't have the wind blasting in my face, I'll go into more detail as to why I am against this.

1. "My character's just a child!!"
Trolls are annoying. Children are naturally pretty stupid and pretty mischievous. At the moment, characters that do stupid things get punished via detention or the KPD. You cannot give detention to a child outside of school and you cannot call the police on a 10 year old. This is already infuriating enough (especially for us at the shrine) when dealing with grade 7, 8, and 9 characters. Of which, are 13, 14, and 15 years old. A children whitelist actively enables this annoying behaviour that makes SRP aggravating instead of fun.
"But just walk away! If you don't want to engage, don't!"
Sadly this is not an option for many faction workers. The government and Shrine factions literally cannot walk away. The government are restricted to a tiny tiny space and the shrine cannot just ignore people due to the nature of our IC rules. Furthermore; we are also restricted to a small area.

2. School Time
Children below the age of 5 do not attend school. Thus they will be left to roam unless under the care of an adult tag which is very unlikely to happen. For children old enough to be in school, an entire new structure and faction would need to be organised. The teacher faction is hard enough when it comes to stress and being overwhelmed; but at least they are dealing with people who are capable of speaking fluently as opposed to a child who cannot differentiate a square from a triangle.

3. CrimeRP and Miss-Use
As of now, Grade-7, Grade-8, and Grade-9 tagged characters are not allowed to engage with GangRP and as far as I'm aware, CrimeRP (correct me if I'm wrong). This is because they cannot be arrested. This rule is already broken several times constantly and adding infants into the mix would only make the problem worse and again, more annoying for the majority.
This has been denied before, I wouldn't be surprised if it's been denied several times. Suggestions being denied is not a call to action to try and convince Kimi to add something - they are denied because the suggestion is not fit for the server. I really do not think that a server such as SRP has space for infant characters.
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i see. I understand. And you're not wrong, its CrimeRP
 
urufu said:
Now that I am home and don't have the wind blasting in my face, I'll go into more detail as to why I am against this.

1. "My character's just a child!!"
Trolls are annoying. Children are naturally pretty stupid and pretty mischievous. At the moment, characters that do stupid things get punished via detention or the KPD. You cannot give detention to a child outside of school and you cannot call the police on a 10 year old. This is already infuriating enough (especially for us at the shrine) when dealing with grade 7, 8, and 9 characters. Of which, are 13, 14, and 15 years old. A children whitelist actively enables this annoying behaviour that makes SRP aggravating instead of fun.
"But just walk away! If you don't want to engage, don't!"
Sadly this is not an option for many faction workers. The government and Shrine factions literally cannot walk away. The government are restricted to a tiny tiny space and the shrine cannot just ignore people due to the nature of our IC rules. Furthermore; we are also restricted to a small area.

2. School Time
Children below the age of 5 do not attend school. Thus they will be left to roam unless under the care of an adult tag which is very unlikely to happen. For children old enough to be in school, an entire new structure and faction would need to be organised. The teacher faction is hard enough when it comes to stress and being overwhelmed; but at least they are dealing with people who are capable of speaking fluently as opposed to a child who cannot differentiate a square from a triangle.

3. CrimeRP and Miss-Use
As of now, Grade-7, Grade-8, and Grade-9 tagged characters are not allowed to engage with GangRP and as far as I'm aware, CrimeRP (correct me if I'm wrong). This is because they cannot be arrested. This rule is already broken several times constantly and adding infants into the mix would only make the problem worse and again, more annoying for the majority.
This has been denied before, I wouldn't be surprised if it's been denied several times. Suggestions being denied is not a call to action to try and convince Kimi to add something - they are denied because the suggestion is not fit for the server. I really do not think that a server such as SRP has space for infant characters.
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tbh as a mod said, is enough
 
TDLR:
Ok, so, I think it’s fine to submit a submission again even if it’s been denied a few times before. Reasons can change. Submissions might vary.

Yes we have no elementary school or elementary school teachers, but we might not need them if the RP centers around homes or special zones. (Bears are also restricted to certain areas.) And yes, Karakura is pretty intense and violent.

But,... ok, putting it behind a paywall might be problematic. Thinking more thoroughly about this, I would suggest forum applications or event-team access.

Long version:
So from how I understand it, the core of this suggestion is to allow certain players RP with characters aged 4–12 through a whitelist. There would be HARD limits on CrimeRP and tighter enforcement than "13y - 15y" rules. (These rules for not engaging with characters under a certain age already exist, they would have to be extended.) Size scaling would match age. And the roles would be strictly for enabling more familyRP and making playgrounds more meaningful.

I assume the reasons people tend to deny it are (from most risky to least risky) the way that younger minors increase the chance of boundary-violating interactions. So things that are already terrible in SRP (harassment, trauma bait, RP, edge scenes, lurking, etc.) are made even more problematic when inserting small minors that are a protected category. While animal abuse is terrible, CHILD abuse (even by negligence or the half-dozen other 'harmless' ways SRP might enable these situations) appears ethically more catastrophic.

I also assume that staff also might not want to add more scrutiny to their workload. Small children in RP scenes might lead to more tickets for Helpers and Mods, more logs, and appeals, even more voided situations and scenes.

That said, I don’t mind Karakura not being build to support elementary kids. Yes, many public places might not be minor-safe and child-appropriate day routines would probably happen mostly at home, at an apartment, or at the beach or at the parks, usually always accompanied by adult caretakers or babysitters.

But I also understand that people are already very annoyed at Grade 7 and 8 characters behaving toddler-like, which seems exhausting. They fear that adding actual toddlers might worsen the issue. This would be hopefully countered with access through application. I would support an Application-based system, where the most seasoned staff-approved players who are known for good roleplay are bestowed with a toddler-role.

I think that the overall intention/goal of better familyRP is totally valid!

After thinking this through, adding child-roles available to everyone probably adds high-risks for a small-scale medium benefit.
I would say: if child-roles are allowed, it should be limited to staff/event-team members and or applications that are thoroughly reviewed based on the RP reputation for long-term players with a good reputation. (It would definitely not be a role that everyone should have access to, but rather some veteran players if at all. (WhiteSnowy1737 might be one of those players who is able to portrait a non-trolling toddler))
 
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justsimba said:
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Honestly read a lot of the replies above.
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But even that, the issue also is people that fail on CrimeRP, and i remember it happened with me before when i was new on server. I just remember happened, but who did i dont remember, and my computer it had the log, decided get again some issues and i formated it to try fix, and i couldnt save many things. But is more to say still have people that dont follow this rule
 
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I admittedly don't trust 85% of the community to not immediately traumatize these children, or play them appropriately
 
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