What's your Minecraft Username?: vinruu
What's the title of your suggestion?: Make the 50 Credit to graduate less, or introduce a different way to graduate

What's your suggestion?:
I feel like the current way is genuinely unfair, as most teachers don't give out homework from what I see when I'm on any student character. As a teacher myself, I can't be talking since.. I mostly forget to, which I'm trying to improve, but it's not fair to those who want to grind and get to college but can't since no teacher's are giving out homework, and 50 credits is too much for someone to get if they can't get homework, or if they are busy with things in their personal life, and a teacher who does give homework hosts and gives it out. Maybe coming up with alternate ways to graduate instead of just having one way besides exams, which I assume that hasn't happened in a while will get people who want to graduate to college or have a reason icly to graduate a chance to get to their goal.


One Alternative Way could be:

When an event happens on school grounds, a few days before the event (OOCLY) people can apply ICLY if they can volunteer for help like food trucks, help, tours and ect. Having help around these events can give teachers more opportunities. For example;


Some time in October, an Autumn Fair, and with this event, some new food is introduced to SRP. Pumpkin Pie, or just fall related snacks and drinks, and this event is hosted on school grounds for students to attend. Takes place on the track with the open space, and their is booths that students can apply for to help work. Possibly asking a HD teacher or SLT member ICLY. This possibly can give a student credit! Credit points can be transferred into college points in order to graduate. Or if needed, this idea can be the same but changed up a bit to be in line or to make sense.

OR!

You receive stickers. After receiving a certain amount of stickers, you can transfer them into credit to graduate. Not a low amount as it's relatively easy to get stickers from faculty staff. If this isn't allowed or going to be accepted, it can be nerfed and introduced with a new way!


These are just two ways as I don't really have anymore ideas, as I believe the first example / idea can really help! Or the amount of 50 credits can just be lowered a tad bit.

How will this benefit the server and community?:
This can help benefit the server and community, as it can possibly give a chance of more people getting into college ICLY if that's their goal to get their character or a certain favorite character of theirs to an adult if they are needed to be one icly for like marriage or ect. This can also give others an opportunity of participating in events with a reason on possibly getting credits if the first idea is added in the same way i described, or implemented but changed up a bit.

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Its pretty much part of the job description at this point to be producing homework tasks. Even as a professor I regularly produce homework tasks. While getting credits via stickers and event participation is good spirit, I don't think it works in practice as I believe participation in such things should be motivated by making the events run smoothly rather than personal gain. The stickers might be a decent suggestion but I'd say make it about 10 stickers or so for a credit, as the primary way of graduation should always remain participation in the educational system instead of being a teachers pet or a d1 snitch.

As for lowering the credit amount, this has been suggested and denied in the past. As someone with two college tags who has not been on the server long enough to attend a college exam, its not too bad (I am also online 12+ hours a day though... Hm.) Though the fact that there is a 'meta' for knowing which classes to attend for credits speaks to the disparity between teachers and the prioritisation of creating and grading homework tasks, which will forever be the underlying issue.

celexaprozac said:

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Its pretty much part of the job description at this point to be producing homework tasks. Even as a professor I regularly produce homework tasks. While getting credits via stickers and event participation is good spirit, I don't think it works in practice as I believe participation in such things should be motivated by making the events run smoothly rather than personal gain. The stickers might be a decent suggestion but I'd say make it about 10 stickers or so for a credit, as the primary way of graduation should always remain participation in the educational system instead of being a teachers pet or a d1 snitch.

As for lowering the credit amount, this has been suggested and denied in the past. As someone with two college tags who has not been on the server long enough to attend a college exam, its not too bad (I am also online 12+ hours a day though... Hm.) Though the fact that there is a 'meta' for knowing which classes to attend for credits speaks to the disparity between teachers and the prioritisation of creating and grading homework tasks, which will forever be the underlying issue.

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its not necessarily for personal gain, it could also just be a way of supporting the events icly, but i do see where you are coming from.

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It sounds interesting but what you're suggesting isn't. How about little tasks around School to help you get credits? Like add an NPC or two to give your character tasks! And every new school day those tasks reset. (You can only do 2-3 tasks a day)

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Agreed, 50 is pushing it a bit imo. We are here to ROLEPLAY, not do homework on subjects most of us aren't even particularly fond of (i.e maths).
Teachers don't give out enough homework to justify 50. </3
30ish would be better imo

Kayla1511 said:

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It sounds interesting but what you're suggesting isn't. How about little tasks around School to help you get credits? Like add an NPC or two to give your character tasks! And every new school day those tasks reset. (You can only do 2-3 tasks a day)

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Honestly i have no idea why i didnt think of that! thats actually smart

urufu said:

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Agreed, 50 is pushing it a bit imo. We are here to ROLEPLAY, not do homework on subjects most of us aren't even particularly fond of (i.e maths).
Teachers don't give out enough homework to justify 50. </3
30ish would be better imo

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Yeah if they would do like 30 credits then y'all gotta do (if my idea is implemented) then do 3 tasks every IC school day for 10 days!

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The reason the 50 credit system was implemented was mainly because of the fact that the only way to graduate at all was through the exams. The credits are meant to be difficult to get but easier in terms of having to wait for exam time otherwise which happens once every blue moon.

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What Urru said sums it up perfectly. This is a roleplay server, not homework simulator.

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You can still do exams.

DarkEclipic said:

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You can still do exams.

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thats true, but like said, they happen every once in a blue moon, i dont think anyone is willing to wait that long for exams to start or happen, just to possibly not even pass, idk though

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I personally don't think 50 credits is a lot! BUT!!! I do think that getting homework is a rare occasion, going off of the classes that I do go to. Why not make it mandatory for teachers/professors to have homework for all of their classes? OR have them meet a 'homework requirement'.. As in every OTHER class has homework instead of every single one does. Again, going off of what I have seen personally, the homework is never even that difficult.. its usually 2-3 short worded questions about the class you attended.

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I have seen plenty of people be around enough to graduate through the 50 credits and then even part of the way through college before the next exams were even posted. The current system we have is new (by a few months), and we don't need a change like this so soon.

Shadonk said:

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I personally don't think 50 credits is a lot! BUT!!! I do think that getting homework is a rare occasion, going off of the classes that I do go to. Why not make it mandatory for teachers/professors to have homework for all of their classes? OR have them meet a 'homework requirement'.. As in every OTHER class has homework instead of every single one does. Again, going off of what I have seen personally, the homework is never even that difficult.. its usually 2-3 short worded questions about the class you attended.

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As a professor I feel a tad entitled to respond to this. Teacher and professor IS the hardest faction; no matter what you argue, we have dealt with EVERY single player that has logged on in all of the server's history. It IS a faction that is VERY essential. Do keep that in mind before you start. So to put it lightly, having any sort of 'homework requirement' would be a one-sided victory; teaching is supposed to be fun! And trust me, we didn't sign up to be the co-developers of the homework simulator. This would not only demotivate the professor and teacher faction SEVERELY, but if you think about this:Minimum quota = 10, that is 120 a year. Now for myself that is no issue, as I DO REALLY love being in the faction and like teaching, BUT there's one thing I and around, I'd like to say, 75% of faculty HATE: making homework. Now these homeworks can vary in how long someone may take writing them; if you PLAN your lessons (which, if I am being honest, not many people do; I don't plan either, and my classes are loved), it is easy. BUT if you don't, it can restrict you severely with how you host! And also… Homework has to be checked by SLT... So that's 120 homeworks; at least ONE SLT member has to mark them. And take into consideration that if you host MORE, it WILL add up, and to add onto this, there are AT LEAST 20 MORE FACTION members. So yeah.

Now besides that, it would just demotivate ALL OF THE FACULTY... It's also WAY too much of an ask for faculty who love teaching but have time restraints. Overall this little idea wouldn't work.

Have a good day!!!

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As a professor I feel a tad entitled to respond to this. Teacher and professor IS the hardest faction; no matter what you argue, we have dealt with EVERY single player that has logged on in all of the server's history. It IS a faction that is VERY essential. Do keep that in mind before you start. So to put it lightly, having any sort of 'homework requirement' would be a one-sided victory; teaching is supposed to be fun! And trust me, we didn't sign up to be the co-developers of the homework simulator. This would not only demotivate the professor and teacher faction SEVERELY, but if you think about this:Minimum quota = 10, that is 120 a year. Now for myself that is no issue, as I DO REALLY love being in the faction and like teaching, BUT there's one thing I and around, I'd like to say, 75% of faculty HATE: making homework. Now these homeworks can vary in how long someone may take writing them; if you PLAN your lessons (which, if I am being honest, not many people do; I don't plan either, and my classes are loved), it is easy. BUT if you don't, it can restrict you severely with how you host! And also… Homework has to be checked by SLT... So that's 120 homeworks; at least ONE SLT member has to mark them. And take into consideration that if you host MORE, it WILL add up, and to add onto this, there are AT LEAST 20 MORE FACTION members. So yeah.

Now besides that, it would just demotivate ALL OF THE FACULTY... It's also WAY too much of an ask for faculty who love teaching but have time restraints. Overall this little idea wouldn't work.

Have a good day!!!

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Could they perhaps make it automatic then? Like it automatically checks the answers, at least checks automatically for multiple choice questions, then they would have less questions to check. I am not sure about how much work tutors have but they should also be able help with checking homework if they do not already have a lot of work.

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Well I do understand that having the exams will help with getting a large sum of students to college tag, but from what I've been told by a friend is that after students in college get their tags, next few weeks later they don't every go to classes and the state of college classes go back to what it was before the exams. Where I do believe that we should have college exams, I personally think having other options like the homework credits to get students to college tag is a more consistent way of getting more student and I believe in order to increase this consistency it would be to decrease the amount of Homework credits needed to graduate.

We've settled around 50 hw credits for almost a year now and I think that it's best it gets looked into Either decreasing to amount of credits to be 40-45 or make it where high school students can gain more opportunities to get more credits to graduate. Furthermore I would also want to add on making it to where you can still go from Bachelors -> Master through homework credits would also be a good way to motivate players to attend more classes for college.

I personally think the Exams are a good way of getting a mass amount of people into college tag, but it's not the most consistent. And changing the credit requirement may not be the Best approach of action, but it's certainly a option noentheless.

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