What's your Minecraft Username?: error_420
What's the title of your suggestion?: buying houses problem

What's your suggestion?:
stop letting houses be sold by players its unfair to anyone that actually wants a house. tell me why you think its actually acceptable to allow others to sell house for 4x the price or only let there friends buy the house case thy cant afford it anymore. (without saying its fair game) case it is not fair game. fair game would be allowing anyone to buy the house insted of the house being flop between 3 people over and over.

ive been to 5 house auctions in this week alone ever house ive been to had either a group of 2 or 3 people team up to buy the house and then just to sell it then split the money that doesn't sound "FAIR" at all. im finding houses with sale signs that are less then 7 days left or either JUST BAUGHT and already up for sell for a 3x price.

idk how the hell that sounds fair game when its easy to see its not fair game if anything its bad sportsmanship its literately the 1 flaw in the housing spot. scamming can get you banned but charging 3x the price of a house and making them also buy the house is not scamming?

How will this benefit the server and community?:
people would actually start to get houses thy want instead of having to save for months to buy one off a player

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This would actually make it harder to get houses as they would all be claimed near immediately. If you want a house, join the race. I was trying for almost a year before I got mine, you just have to he patient.

Players that can afford house rent can absolutely afford the high selling prices 90% of the time.

Following your logic of selling houses being scamming, Auction Flipping would also be considered scamming which would harm the server's economy greatly.

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I wouldn't say i'm biased.. But I might be a little. I sell houses, penthouses, anything that is high value and that I can get a grasp on. For an example, before I finally settled down and got myself my Penthouse, I used to get a house, sell it for 4 times the price then just jump the market accordingly.

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There are plenty of other properties that are around the server that are unclaimed. As someone who has had a house for over 2-3 years(then moved when the SD penthouses open), houses are extremely small compared to their price and imo not worth it.

You are better off getting an apartment in the SD Penthouses, Apartments A-D, and most apartments in the business business district. Those are fairly priced for how large they are to how much they cost

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I think limiting player freedom is a big no from me. If you want to charge an increased price for something, do it. If you don't want to pay for a house with an increased price, don't. You're not forced to own a house. There are many other apartments that are larger than houses, and they are much more plentiful than houses. I agree with Dark on this one, houses are not really worth owning compared to their price.

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I want a house, so I either try to buy it or wait until it's due. This is NOT an issue, but just how basic demand and supply work. There are no empty houses, and a ton of people who want houses. Now, how do you even determine who 'actually wants a house'? I want a house, but if I see people wanting to buy a house from me, I also want to make a good deal out of it. This isn't being unfair; it's just making the most of it. It's how the economy flows, in a way.

Now let's talk about reality here. NONE OF US OWNS THE DAMN HOUSE. KimiNoUso himself said it on Discord multiple times right after the S.D. remodeling. We don't own the house. So why are we paying x3 times for the place? You may ask. Well, that's just for the person to disown their claim in the property.

err0r_420 said:

scamming can get you banned but charging 3x the price of a house and making them also buy the house is not scamming?

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Scamming OOCLY can get you banned. Scamming ICLY COULD get you detained, but not banned, as that is Roleplay and Criminal Roleplay. I would assume that EVERYONE here is doing the negotiation ICLY. If they do end up making a negotiation oocly, what would be a scam is paying for a house and then taking the money, with no actual transaction. If the buyer accepts to (and is willing to) pay x3 times the price, then good on them. If you think they shouldn't, then that's an opinion. At this point, auction flipping will also be considered a scam. Hell, even shops that charge 35000 yen for an item that costs 4000 would be a scam, yeah, no, they should be banned as well.

What I would say is that there is a problem in housing, and it's not actually being mentioned here. And that is, there are people with multiple properties. Now I get some of the examples, like Businesses and Shops, or even sports dorms... But there are some exceptions that are just icky (and allowed in SRP). Another scam is the prices on rent of some of the apartments.... I'm looking at you, complex H.... You ain't a penthouse, don't lie to us.

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Since the staff announced last time that all housing is only rented to players, players should not make the "transfer of rental rights"

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-1, that's just business brochacho, get richer

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+1/-1 call me crazy but I'm pretty neutral on this idea, I've had a house for about 2 years now so I'm not sure what modern day house selling is like, However I think to prevent people from selling houses to friends and stuff there could be like a 24 hour wait period where once a house gets disowned its not able to be claimed so that way more people who are interested in houses can find out about it and also have a good shot at claiming it.

Like I said, Im not very familiar with the prices of houses modern day but I do know houses are popular, So giving more people the chance to get one really wouldnt hurt in theory.

AirconUnit said:

+1/-1 call me crazy but I'm pretty neutral on this idea, I've had a house for about 2 years now so I'm not sure what modern day house selling is like, However I think to prevent people from selling houses to friends and stuff there could be like a 24 hour wait period where once a house gets disowned its not able to be claimed so that way more people who are interested in houses can find out about it and also have a good shot at claiming it.

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This would make passing houses onto friends/IC family members impossible though... Also would make selling houses and swapping houses impossible.

AirconUnit said:

However I think to prevent people from selling houses to friends and stuff there could be like a 24 hour wait period where once a house gets disowned its not able to be claimed so that way more people who are interested in houses can find out about it and also have a good shot at claiming it.

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People who are interested in houses will need to wait until the house is due either way, with orr without a 24 hour wait. Everyone has a good shot at claiming a property. Technically speaking, the current tenant has all the freedom to do whatever they want with the house, and that includes choosing between selling it or giving it away. Now, people who struggle with money would consider getting a few bucks out of it.

Considering you are KPD and have owned this house for more than 2 years. Your bank account is not really affected up to this point, thus this wouldn't hurt you, but for the person who doesn't even have an income, this could be a good investment. After all, real estate is an investment too.

PUNISHING people for others' "greedy actions" is NOT what the solution should be people.

Miamorchito said:

People who are interested in houses will need to wait until the house is due either way, with orr without a 24 hour wait. Everyone has a good shot at claiming a property. Technically speaking, the current tenant has all the freedom to do whatever they want with the house, and that includes choosing between selling it or giving it away. Now, people who struggle with money would consider getting a few bucks out of it.

Considering you are KPD and have owned this house for more than 2 years. Your bank account is not really affected up to this point, thus this wouldn't hurt you, but for the person who doesn't even have an income, this could be a good investment. After all, real estate is an investment too.

PUNISHING people for others' "greedy actions" is NOT what the solution should be people.

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Okay i do agree with this actually, The brain did not really cook as much as i thought with my answer

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Houses are for sale, you can still find houses that go down w/o sales, I was at one last night. Unfortunately I wasn't able to snag it. But just because a FEW players sell their houses, which they got through whatever means, renting, purchasing, I think they should be able to sell them or keep them? It's just like an item, when there's less of them, there's more in demand, and people will pay better rates to get it.

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HedeonRP. said:

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Houses are for sale, you can still find houses that go down w/o sales, I was at one last night. Unfortunately I wasn't able to snag it. But just because a FEW players sell their houses, which they got through whatever means, renting, purchasing, I think they should be able to sell them or keep them? It's just like an item, when there's less of them, there's more in demand, and people will pay better rates to get it.

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I agree with this! It's the basics of Supply and Demand. Just because there's a high demand for a low-ish supply doesn't mean that that should change.

err0r_420 said:

What's your Minecraft Username?: error_420
What's the title of your suggestion?: buying houses problem

What's your suggestion?:
stop letting houses be sold by players its unfair to anyone that actually wants a house. tell me why you think its actually acceptable to allow others to sell house for 4x the price or only let there friends buy the house case thy cant afford it anymore. (without saying its fair game) case it is not fair game. fair game would be allowing anyone to buy the house insted of the house being flop between 3 people over and over.

ive been to 5 house auctions in this week alone ever house ive been to had either a group of 2 or 3 people team up to buy the house and then just to sell it then split the money that doesn't sound "FAIR" at all. im finding houses with sale signs that are less then 7 days left or either JUST BAUGHT and already up for sell for a 3x price.

idk how the hell that sounds fair game when its easy to see its not fair game if anything its bad sportsmanship its literately the 1 flaw in the housing spot. scamming can get you banned but charging 3x the price of a house and making them also buy the house is not scamming?

How will this benefit the server and community?:
people would actually start to get houses thy want instead of having to save for months to buy one off a player

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Houses aren't really game changing, nor are they something that's essential to by. If anything, I'd actually recommend you try going for the complex A and C. Houses are more so a novelty to have and would work out well in Family Events, or for smaller families, but even then you can still achieve the same thing with any complex (Trust me I once hosted a Wedding when I used to live in Complex A). Plus as Liz said Penthouses have more room in them for you to work with and offers more value then a house would.

[already up for sell for a 3x price.] That itself is an unwritten thing that people have been doing for a long time, and it even exists in other servers outside of SRP. And in these servers and i would presume the same for SRP it's not necessarily against the rules (quotes me if I'm wrong on that). Plus houses and even some apartments are first come first serve by nature, so if you get the house, good for you if not, too bad. Additionally the people who do own houses would offer 3x the price is because they're Pricy. 250k a month is a lot of money for people who aren't in any faction or works at certain player run shops and for many doing this would the very least

[Scamming can get you banned but charging 3x the price of a house and making them also buy the house is not scamming?] This isn't Hypixel or some other really big server. Because SRP is a rather small server, everyone knows each other and there is this sense of trust towards the veteran players along with staff being relatively available if you know how to manage your options. Therefore Scamming cases while yeah they can be a bannable offense, it doesn't happen all to often, and from what I've seen it mostly happens with newer players who are more likely to take stuff from others. Which also incentivizes for you to use medal or replay mod in the case scenario you do (which is also why it doesn't happen all to much).

[if anything its bad sportsmanship] To an extent if you decided to partake it a "house auction" there isn't really much to complain if you loose, mostly because in a way you did sign up for it. Plus I'm also going ask you one thing: If you were to own a house and successfully buy one, would you still be complaining about this matter?

Now I don't personally do these kinda break downs, but I have been keeping tracks on you to some extent with the housing and I want to give you a piece of my mind and more importantly This Is Not Me Being Negative And Shutting You Down On Getting A House, I'm more so expressing my opinion on the matter itself as someone who owns a house.

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