IGN: xansder
DATE: 9/17/2020
WHAT YOU NEED TO SUGGEST OR MENTION: As stated in my previous suggestion, there's currently a rule set in place in that nobody except hospital staff is able to do medical-related roleplay. Considering that the times that EMS are on the server and are able to do anything for your character is currently pretty iffy, I think that there should be one exception for this.

Players that have previously applied for hospital staff AND remained hospital staff for at least two months should be permitted to do medical-related roleplay as long as they have proof. I would imagine that a character that went to medical school and did have experience in the field should know and will willingly execute any medical procedures that could be done to potentially save a life. Still, nobody else except characters that were EMS or are currently EMS shouldn't be permitted to do MedicalRP.

Thank you for reading my suggestion.

As mentioned in the announcement I made not too long ago, citizens can use basic first aid. I feel like this is enough medical roleplay that a citizen should need to keep someone alive. If you want to MedicalRP then simply apply for EMS; it is as simple as that.

Berttieee said:

As mentioned in the announcement I made not too long ago, citizens can use basic first aid. I feel like this is enough medical roleplay that a citizen should need to keep someone alive. If you want to MedicalRP then simply apply for EMS; it is as simple as that.

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I agree. Stuff like CPR, recovery position, applying pressure is okay. However, if citizens were going to stitch, cast legs, use defibrillators and such- there wouldn't be much for those who have the hospital staff role to do. If someone chose to resign, they would simply not be able to perform procedures like the ones I mentioned.

Of course not casting, usage of defibrillators, or major things like that... They wouldn't be able to do so because that requires medical equipment that only EMS has access to. Basic first aid in my eyes is bandaging, CPR, etc.. things along those lines, yes?

I didn't clarify it before, but I suppose I mean a bit more advanced things like minor stitching and snapping dislocated bones back into place. I couldn't imagine someone doing an MRI with sticks, mud, and the buckle of their belt or making adrenaline out of the spit of a bird.

Maybe we are allowed to do that stuff. I wouldn't know, there really isn't a drawn line between minor and major medical roleplay.

Tarxan said:

Of course not casting, usage of defibrillators, or major things like that... They wouldn't be able to do so because that requires medical equipment that only EMS has access to. Basic first aid in my eyes is bandaging, CPR, etc.. things along those lines, yes?

I didn't clarify it before, but I suppose I mean a bit more advanced things like minor stitching and snapping dislocated bones back into place. I couldn't imagine someone doing an MRI with sticks, mud, and the buckle of their belt or making adrenaline out of the spit of a bird.

Maybe we are allowed to do that stuff. I wouldn't know, there really isn't a drawn line between minor and major medical roleplay.

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Stitching requires EMS equipment, putting a bone back into place would require painkillers and an oxygen mask. Things like that, citizens just shouldn't be allowed to do

In my opinion, everyone should be able to do medical-based RP without having ever been EMS. A lot of what the rule seems to be is just due to newer players going into the hospital & roleplaying it out on their own. People can very well know more than basic first-aid without having ever become EMS (realistically at least). No, people wouldn't be able to do their medical roleplay in the hospital, though say they decided to do it at home, that could always work. (Not sanitary, but it would work)

If everyone were able to do medical roleplay past just your basic first-aid it could very well open up new chances for roleplay;
- Your character doesn't trust the KPD/EMS? You decide to do stuff to the best of your ability at home
- Your character went to medical-school though never ended up in the medical field
- You happened to find some medical equipment & bought it! Woah, you use it at home, and sure you don't know how to, but oh well! Try your best

It wouldn't be all that big of an issue to just allow people to do medical-based roleplay without being EMS anyways, as it's not something many people actually seem all too interested in. Plus it would be more self-roleplay, or just with a few friends, wouldn't cause that big of an impact. As long as they aren't using a place like the hospital it doesn't seem like it's all that much of an issue.

tl;dr fuck it, let everyone do medical-based roleplay

Qxmer said:

You have to think of the downsides to allowing other people to Medical-RP freely as Non-Hospital-Staff. Although some people may have medical knowledge and a background to the medical scene, I believe they should still only be able to Basic First Aid. Theres a reason why EMS exist and why they have equipment specific to them. There's specific equipment that EMS are required to have, not only that but the rules are put into place for a reason, if these weren't put into place EMS would eventually just go down hill.

Reason 1:
EMS are required to have patience, and having other people to MedicalRP will take away from the whole idea of EMS. It creates a less of necessity to EMS.

Reason 2:
Equipment is a big factor within MedicalRP, there are customs that are strictly available for only EMS, and because of that they are not allowed to be shared or given to non-ems. Not only that but if they were easily obtainable by citizens then it would also take away the uniqueness from EMS. Reason 3: MedicalRP has a lot of hidden features, not only that but EMS isn't as easy as just roleplaying. EMS required a high amount of DetailRP, and not only that but smaller and bigger mechanics that I do not believe I am aloud to share. overall some features may be you need to justify their actions, people get into situations where it takes higher ups rather than just one person to figure out the situation. If you have no MedicalRP, or knowledge then going into the EMS and you correctly, or are a valid listener you are going to be able to learn a heavy amount of information, that a citizen would have trouble gaining knowledge of within RP.

Reason 4:
Different departments are required to have different training, and are crucial to how EMS work together as a team and with patients, because of that if you are unaware of what to do, it could easily be a stressful duty for one. For instance Doctors, Surgeons, and Nurses are all similar though they have tweaks that are made to them, therefore they are not all required or are able to do the same procedures. Now for Psychiatrists, it is a different task, because it is mentally, or more conversational, then you are going to need to learn a whole new set of tasks, and how to go about them. The training process is very different and they fluctuate, though help each other. If this were to be available to citizens then overall EMS wouldn't be a job, or necessity.

Reason 5:
Anyone could also just say that "I have been and trained in a medical field" despite them having little or no knowledge at all, so overall it becomes hard to track. Therefore the whole idea of it could be sloppy, and there is no real way to tell. If you are fired, or are resigned from EMS, you do come out with lots of OOC Medical Knowledge, at least that's how I saw it from my experience.

Overall, I just believe it's fine how it is and doesn't require any adjustments. If anything I said was misunderstood, let me know and I'll explain it.

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Completely agree, if anyone could just MedicalRP it takes away the Hospital's main focus. No-one will need the Hospital because they could just do it themselves at home.

It also gives police a harder time catching criminals. A lot of the time we get people stabbed with katanas, assaulted with a bat, etc.. We report this to the police and they find the criminal. Or, we actually get the criminals in the hospital because they've been on the run and they've been injured, for example. If we made it so anyone could MedicalRP; GangRP'ers would never go in the Hospital and would just "treat themselves" in their apartment, with no antibiotics, no painkillers, etc.. They would most likely just GangRP again minutes later.

Tarxan said:

IGN: xansder
DATE: 9/17/2020
WHAT YOU NEED TO SUGGEST OR MENTION: As stated in my previous suggestion, there's currently a rule set in place in that nobody except hospital staff is able to do medical-related roleplay. Considering that the times that EMS are on the server and are able to do anything for your character is currently pretty iffy, I think that there should be one exception for this.

Players that have previously applied for hospital staff AND remained hospital staff for at least two months should be permitted to do medical-related roleplay as long as they have proof. I would imagine that a character that went to medical school and did have experience in the field should know and will willingly execute any medical procedures that could be done to potentially save a life. Still, nobody else except characters that were EMS or are currently EMS shouldn't be permitted to do MedicalRP.

Thank you for reading my suggestion.

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hello, first set of medic staff yo back in the other map but placing that aside. I know that not every1 can be on or stay in the hospital forever especially if that account is their main. Honestly, if they arent there you can always skiprp. Giving players access to do full on surgeries would just make everything confusing, perhaps if they gave them an option to apply for their character to have knowledge on medicrp on forums or somethin other than that i don't really see how it'll work!But good suggestion anaywyas