DrKatzz Another.. Faculty Suggestion .. haha..

[opp]

IGN: DrKatzz
DATE: 08/07/22
WHAT YOU WANT TO SUGGEST OR MENTION: A Faculty School Board Faction!
HOW WILL THIS BENEFIT THE SERVER/COMMUNITY?: So! Uhh.. you all might be tired of me with these weekly suggestions but give me another chance!!! But I really want to implement this cause I think it will help Faculty Faction a LOT and add some roleplay experiences

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SCHOOL BOARD FACULTY FACTION
Explanation:

School Board Faculty will be filled with adults that have been in school faction for a good while to earn the trust of SLT to receive a Promotion to School Board.

What would this faction do?

This faction will take on some more power over the school, and basically stand right next to SLT but.. has no power like SLT (exp: Giving Suspensions, firing people, etc)
1. This faction can receive reports for OverLimited detentions/Suspensions (aka A student passed 4 detentions/Suspensions and will need to receive Suspension/Explusion) and then will report any of SLT with proof of a student needing said suspension/Expelled. This will be a channel like in Teacher/Employee/Professor logs so SLT doesn’t have to deal with a lot of pings of needing to deal with students. This can prevent teachers always needing to ping SLT for a student when they can tell a School Board member and it can be logged, this can also prevent the same student being reported/logged over and over.

(removed Classroom Checks) - I THOUGHT it was a good idea until taking into consideration some faculty can try to be strict with the rules even if SLT isn’t, so them becoming School board to give teachers bad classroom check review possibly just because the teacher is wearing cat ears.. wouldn’t be a good Idea.

(Changed) 3. This faction can HELP SLT and Student council with School events. I feel like most times SLT is just way too busy to be able to host Events every month that on the Calender. Knowing that E.T doesn’t work on school events and only work on flash events. I know it’s not their fault.

4. The people in this faction should not tolerate anything but also not get out of character, these people HAVE to be professional in every <SERIOUS> <—— Situation. (Aka Disrespectful students in detention or in general, These people cannot go on a roasting battle with students and trying to embarrass students). They must also be on Other Faculty/Student side, and not favoring one opinion over the other.
(I feel like there can be more but I can’t think of anything)​

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Some Allows and Dislowed for this Faction

Removed Being Allowed to give more detentions - Since Faculty is already able to do this (and personally I didn’t know) I will just say failure to inform Faculty of this being able to happen without being scared is Faculty Instructors fault. Seeing how we CAN do stuff, without really knowing.. shows a lot just a bit. We shouldn’t really have to ask if we can do something if we are already able to do it-
DISALLOW - School board members to use their title to over power others, this faction is only to help and take more control of the School and NOT to show or try to show off that they are better than normal educators/Employees when they aren’t.

(changed) Allow - This faction to be Applied for in forums by Current Already Faculty who have been in faculty for atleast 1-2 ooc months, have a good Reputation, Havent been icly warned by SLT and HD (Head of Department) have a higher chance of being apart of School Board Faction. These members will no longer be considered Teachers/Professor/or Employee but apart of the board. The amount of people that can join School Board will only be 0/4.

Allow - This faction to have characters who’s more mean and strict, this will allow people to not be so scared oocly having to give detentions constantly or something cause it would technically BE THERE JOB, to be strict.

(Change) Allow - They are able to give punishment to college students who don’t go to class and has a low record of class attended when they see a College student out of class when Multiple professors are hosting classes but this can be a feature if there is a good amount of college students online along with active college classes .. (looking out for my fellow professors.) This will allow Professors, employees and teachers to NOT worry about this because it’s not necessarily our JOB to make sure students get to class, and with the Dean aka Tippie saying that we should just let college students have fun, it won’t change anything with “Just do intercom” if there isn’t something to hold them accountable. I love my boss but can’t really report a student to the Head doesn’t really hold them at some restraint nor really wants to force people to go to class.

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QUOTAS

I HAVE THOUGHT LONG AND HARD ABOUT THIS SO IDK
(Changed)
School Activity (just like employees) 0/15-25
And when there is Meetings they have to
Attend Atleast 4 during there first times as School Board.

Paychecks
(Changed) Possibly starting at 150k
The amount of Quotas they continue to improve, the more money that will be handed to them during paycheck/ also with how much they do for the School Faction.
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my Reasoning:

Some of my reasonings is due to what I see in faculty, one of the big ones would involve detention. I feel a lot of faculty tend to get frustrated because we have a availability to contact SLT for misbehaving students but when we NEED SLT , they are either already busy and Giving someone a suspension is NOT their top priority or they just.. don’t come online for it. (Put this in red so people can read..)

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OR

another suggestion relating to this..

This DOESNT become another form of Faction but another Role a person within faculty can be apart of (same thing only 1-4 but possibly 5 since it won’t be a fraction)

What do you mean?
This can be the same thing and can be applied for or a faculty member can Contact SLT, and have a test to see if they can become apart of school board. These will still be adults but these people will need full motivation and passion to make school faction a bit better and don’t mind lending a Hand out to make things happen

These people can be chosen this way
Faculty —> (stay in the faction for more than 2-3 ooc months) —> Apply to be School board but like above must be active, no warnings from SLT and good reputation

or

Faculty —> Promoted to HD —> if a person that has gained HD title and has been HD for (1-2 ooc months) and want to become school board then .. —> Apply to become School Board.

Paychecks
simple, No paychecks. This can be a title (not actually given but can be in the roster though in the server) but this is a choice, whoever applies will still be what they are but have a bit more responsibility if they want to become apart of school board

What will school board do?
These Faculty Members just want to help make Events, help other teachers and encourage students to get to class more. But mainly helping out SLT in where they stand . Like One school board can be of assistance to College Sports, and College events/ Another for Hs Sports and Highschool Events/ and then Another to help advocate for Student council and whatever help Student Council needs and so on. They WONT be taking over these factions but merely to assist and help improve chances of making Factions they are working in better and make events that actually happen, happen.

These people can help SLT keep a lot of work off their hands so (icly) they can get other School related stuff don’t (but instead it’s ooc stuff)

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Something I decided to change from adding to the faction to it becoming it’s own suggested thing.
ADDING A CHANNEL SO ALL FACULTY CAN REPORT OVERLIMIT DETENTIONS. This will just keep the Faculty Chat from being the place where people get reported and also a log channel can HELP SLT keep track of who needs to go and who doesn’t, and it can be solely off for those, this can also prevent teachers having to report a student more than once and instead can be put into a channel where SLT can just look when they need and give the person a suspension/Explusion. ​

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If you have any suggestions to add in/ or changes to mine please let me know so I can edit! I feel this can be a big positive for the Faction.


Ty for reading!

 

[kustomzero]

+1 it implies more realism onto the server as well. It also adds more reputation and motivation for those that want to be a board member so they apply for school faction, and just hopes they will be invited later on in the coming future.

 

[Sporkmoment]

+1 not much to add, im tired.. ill probably edit this to add more l8r, but its cool and more factions are nice

 

[Latte]

This is a very great suggestion! The only issue I can think of, is potential abuse. The school faction is a very open faction and anyone can join / apply, sure I would hope the SLT are capable of making the right choice but if the Event-Team can't be trusted with a powerful command, I feel this will most likely be denied as this receives MUCH more power. If one person messes up, abuses they're power, or calls bias and does this to someone - then things will start heading downhill and causing mistrust among the school faction, let alone SLT.

I like the idea, but too much could go wrong—so I will remain neutral and await for others to respond.

 

[HATOLA]

School Board Faculty will be filled with adults that have been in school faction for a good while to earn the trust of SLT to receive a Promotion to School Board.

-1 for that

The Faction can take charge of Monthly School Events/Also District Meetings with SLT, Student Council (also oocly if wanted, with the Event Team for big events). These meeting can be planned out by Student Board and with the welcoming of Student council and SLT can all plan to make events, this will also HELP events actually happen because there can be more people in charge.

-1 for that as well, u always u can to dm a council president.

The people in this faction should not tolerate anything but also not get out of character, these people HAVE to be professional in every <SERIOUS> <—— Situation. (Aka Disrespectful students in detention or in general, These people cannot go on a roasting battle with students and trying to embarrass students). They must also be on Other Faculty/Student side, and not favoring one opinion over the other.

School faculty is working in the same way, u have to stay professional, that some employees/professors not listening to this rule is another thing.

Allow - They are able to give punishment to college students who don’t go to class and has a low record of class attended when they see a College student out of class when Multiple professors are hosting classes but this can be a feature if there is a good amount of college students online along with active college classes .. (looking out for my fellow professors.)

Every faculty person can do that, and of course giving detention in case they're skipping classes

Possibly 400k - 600k
I would make it lower but I think when a faction has more things to do it should add a higher check.​

no

Overall: A massive -1 for me, maybe the only thing I can agree with is to make for faculty a channel for the reports(like how the council have)

 

[opp]

1 for that as well, u always u can to dm a council president.

… this isn’t just for events. This could be anything, even ic interactions, speaking about how to make the school better and etc. which it wouldn’t be a meeting but a SCHOOL board meeting.

School faculty is working in the same way, u have to stay professional, that some employees/professors not listening to this rule is another thing.

Though it’s a rule, not an enforced one either. Tippie doesn’t even force professors to stay professional so I have no idea why anyone that’s not SLT trying to enforce it either even if it’s a bit weird seeing it.

Every faculty person can do that, and of course giving detention in case they're skipping classes

Another thing, not really anyone wants to cause they don’t want their character to be viewed as strict or anything oocly. Nor, once again and due to my last faculty suggestion. Tippie doesn’t enforce much of anything.

no

If a faction is giving more things to do.. for a job, it’s just common sense they would get paid more :|

I think a lot of this flew over your head, no matter how much suggestions people make for the Faculty faction(besides, like printers or useful stuff) it always gets denied. So, what not better then just adding a faction that will demolish all of everyone’s most concerns. Just cause these things can happen already, it’s not happening. =|

 

[HATOLA]

… this isn’t just for events. This could be anything, even ic interactions, speaking about how to make the school better and etc. which it wouldn’t be a meeting but a SCHOOL board meeting.

For this u dont need a whole faction, I believe our faction leads will be happy to hear about our opinions without it.

Though it’s a rule, not an enforced one either. Tippie doesn’t even force professors to stay professional so I have no idea why anyone that’s not SLT trying to enforce it either even if it’s a bit weird seeing it.

Because its kind of obvious thing; I dont know how the professors' training is going, but teachers KNOW how to act as Im doing the training.

Another thing, not really anyone wants to cause they don’t want their character to be viewed as strict or anything oocly. Nor, once again and due to my last faculty suggestion. Tippie doesn’t enforce much of anything.

Its on u to make sure other students would go to classes, and I saw a few ideas about this(e.g doing an intercom about that, most of the times people r joining after it.)

If a faction is giving more things to do.. for a job, it’s just common sense they would get paid more :|

SRP's economy is already fucked, there's no reason for a school faculty person to get 400k for being a teacher for & get more 400k for doing nothing they can do without being a part of it.

I think a lot of this flew over your head, no matter how much suggestions people make for the Faculty faction(besides, like printers or useful stuff) it always gets denied. So, what not better then just adding a faction that will demolish all of everyone’s most concerns. Just cause these things can happen already, it’s not happening. =|

I can prove youre wrong, because even me when I made a suggestion about a faculty chat it happened in the end.

Anyway, this is just a useless idea which youre supposed to do as a faculty person without creating a whole new faction for it.(Dont take it personal, It's just my opinion)

 

[Latte]

For this u dont need a whole faction, I believe our faction leads will be happy to hear about our opinions without it.

Because its kind of obvious thing; I dont know how the professors' training is going, but teachers KNOW how to act as Im doing the training.


Its on u to make sure other students would go to classes, and I saw a few ideas about this(e.g doing an intercom about that, most of the times people r joining after it.)


SRP's economy is already fucked, there's no reason for a school faculty person to get 400k for being a teacher for & get more 400k for doing nothing they can do without being a part of it.


I can prove youre wrong, because even me when I made a suggestion about a faculty chat it happened in the end.

Anyway, this is just a useless idea which youre supposed to do as a faculty person without creating a whole new faction for it.(Dont take it personal, It's just my opinion)

Sup Halota, I'm responding on Kat's behalf but with my opinion. Starting off, I see your a teacher and am aware you've been in the faction for such a long time now! But how does that allow you to see into the professor side of things? I disagree with the suggestion, yes but stating this is a 'useless suggestion' is a bit of a far stretch and these replies feel like your poking at rule three of the fourms and, if I'm being completely honest, no one wants that. Anyways, I'm responding for Kat because no one really wants to speak up about topics like these and debates as its a hassle with back and forth when you aren't even on the same page and/or level. I solely agree with you on the money part, however, there is most certainly jobs that make higher such as shopkeeper. If you were on a board of highly appreciated people, wouldn't you be paid atleast somewhat more? If it's already fucked, what's the harm. This is school-rp, after all. Also, some suggestions get higher credit cause people are in the faction for longer, not everyone has that luxury.

If you respond to this, I'm warning you now, neither me nor Kat will respond to your comment as we don't want to further escalate this. Hope this message finds you well! - Ash

 

[NoZinth]

-1 It's a cool idea, which would be really fun if implemented, but its unnecessary, and SLT are perfectly capable of doing all of the things mentioned in this post :D

 

[opp]

-1 It's a cool idea, which would be really fun if implemented, but its unnecessary, and SLT are perfectly capable of doing all of the things mentioned in this post :D

They are but .. 50% chance it gets done to SLT being busy.

 

[philbertman42]

A lot of the issues with this have already been addressed, but if I'm to add my own two cents:

While I do see the benefits in it, I don't think anybody would be suitable to play the role correctly; at the very least, I don't believe there would be enough quality players to make a faction/teams worth. I especially don't think we should be promoting our teachers out of their role, as we're already having an issue with activity (average 56.5% in the past 4 months.)

Classes should be better monitored, though that responsibility should be delegated to the SLT and them alone. Lesson quality (for high school, at least) has been substantially worse over the past year with very few exceptions. A new role could help, though ultimately it should be up to the SLT to ensure their employees are performing well, not the experienced players within their factions.

Really, all of the issues you seek to fix with the addition of such a role wouldn't exist if teachers were better trained and monitored, or if SLT actually played on their SLT characters and did their jobs instead of hiding on their student accounts all the time.

 

[opp]

While I do see the benefits in it, I don't think anybody would be suitable to play the role correctly; at the very least, I don't believe there would be enough quality players to make a faction/teams worth. I especially don't think we should be promoting our teachers out of their role, as we're already having an issue with activity (average 56.5% in the past 4 months.)

Yeah, which I totally understand because activity did go down a bunch but this is why I added more to Quotas, and wanted it to become easier to HD to get accepted in if they wanted to become apart of School Board. Though, if it were to be added it would really be up to SLT who they put in and to see the results of if it became something.

though ultimately it should be up to the SLT to ensure their employees are performing well, not the experienced players within their factions.

Yeah, I thought of this aswell. I just put Class monitor watching mainly for the rp. Seeing teachers changing their teaching ways, along with the students acting different for their teachers so.

Really, all of the issues you seek to fix with the addition of such a role wouldn't exist if teachers were better trained and monitored, or if SLT actually played on their SLT characters and did their jobs instead of hiding on their student accounts all the time.

You hit it .. right on the nose. Which is why, why not let people who want to do something for school faction have a chance cause SLT isn’t really except for all the Sports events. I don’t want to make a faction replacing SLT, but I would like to have a faction that is dedicated to the school like Student Council. Even if this faction could have some majors downsides and concern, what faction doesn’t?

 

[philbertman42]

I especially don't think we should be promoting our teachers out of their role, as we're already having an issue with activity (average 56.5% in the past 4 months.)

Yeah, which I totally understand because activity did go down a bunch but this is why I added more to Quotas

People will not fulfill these quotas unless they are intrinsically motivated to do so, which is incredibly rare within the teaching factions these days. A frightening amount of people only apply for the teacher/professor roles to play an adult character and for money, and as long as they meet the bare minimum requirements, they are allowed to keep their age and get their pay.

Ultimately it should be up to the SLT to ensure their employees are performing well, not the experienced players within their factions.

Yeah, I thought of this aswell. I just put Class monitor watching mainly for the rp. Seeing teachers changing their teaching ways, along with the students acting different for their teachers so.

Teachers already have the authority to monitor classes, and HDs are even encouraged to do so for the lower-ranking teachers in their department. From firsthand experience in these situations as the teacher on the giving and receiving end, as well as a student from the third perspective, it doesn't add anything significant to roleplay in most scenarios.

Really, all of the issues you seek to fix with the addition of such a role wouldn't exist if teachers were better trained and monitored, or if SLT actually played on their SLT characters and did their jobs.

You hit it .. right on the nose. Which is why, why not let people who want to do something for school faction have a chance?

Because it should be the responsibility of the faction leads, not of other players. I'm not against experienced players in their respective factions helping the newer ones, but they shouldn't be responsible for everything; the SLT needs to be the ones maintaining their own factions, making sure the content of their staff's roleplay is engaging for the common player base, ensuring they are knowledgeable of IC and OOC protocols, and anything else that generally comes with the "SLT" title.

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I believe SLT needs to involve themselves more within their factions ICly. Delegating what should be their responsibilities onto another group (higher ranking faculty, council, etc) causes more problems than it's worth, since most of us understand most aspects of our roles differently; be it through training, student discipline or hosting lessons, it would be better if the information came from one consistent source, rather than a body of experienced players with their unique experiences and methodology.

 

[Lizalopod]

-1

Is this really necessary? It's not that difficult to keep track of detentions. Faculty and council can report students for suspension already, they just don't do it enough. Like everything listed here is already handled by other factions, there's 0 need for this.

 

[opp]

-1

Is this really necessary? It's not that difficult to keep track of detentions. Faculty and council can report students for suspension already, they just don't do it enough. Like everything listed here is already handled by other factions, there's 0 need for this.

We DO actually do it enough, most faculty just stopped doing it cause SLT doesn’t really do anything most of the time even if we ping them. If it was being handled correctly, I wouldn’t have suggested it at all.

 

[Mariav]

1. This faction can receive reports for OverLimited detentions/Suspensions

The faculty can do that by themselves by pinging a SLT member or telling them over the radio.

2. They will also do Classroom Checks

We have SLT and faction leads for that. If anything, once per year an Inspector is added to the faculty to do that job (player selected by SLT)

3. The Faction can take charge of Monthly School Events/Also District Meetings with SLT, Student Council (also oocly if wanted, with the Event Team for big events).

SLT already does that perfectly fine. Since everyone is responsible for a part of the faculty if we need anything we can contact them directly. Besides we already have an event Calendar where we know when which big event is happening.

School Board Members to be used for FearRp.

Faculty in general and detention can be used for that.

They are able to give punishment to college students who don’t go to class and has a low record of class attended when they see a College student out of class when Multiple professors are hosting classes but this can be a feature if there is a good amount of college students online along with active college classes .. (looking out for my fellow professors.)

Any faculty can do that and if needed it can be redirected to the deans.

Possibly 400k
I would make it lower but I think when a faction has more things to do it should add a higher check

that’s 100k less than a slt paycheck and the same amount a professor/teacher can get if they work A LOT

In general I’m against this idea. Faculty job can be done just fine with the current roles we have and there is really no need someone to be the “middle man” between faculty and SLT. Furthermore, SLT shouldn’t be needed for every small problem, faculty is pretty able to deal with that themselves.

As said before every year we add a school inspector that can do the other jobs you stated.

If a faculty member needs anything different they can contact their respective faction lead:
KimiNoUso - Teachers
Tippie - Professors and Col Sports
Maria - Employees and HS Sports
Customable - Council and Clubs


-1

 

[Lizalopod]

We DO actually do it enough, most faculty just stopped doing it cause SLT doesn’t really do anything most of the time even if we ping them. If it was being handled correctly, I wouldn’t have suggested it at all.

Just saying, just because they don't get to it immediately doesn't mean that they won't. And just stopping to do it because of that adds onto the problem of them not getting handled :/

 

[Mariav]

Just saying, just because they don't get to it immediately doesn't mean that they won't. And just stopping to do it because of that adds onto the problem of them not getting handled :/

For real. I love rp’ing as vice principal but I really cannot be online on that account 24/7. I have university and other things to focus on and giving someone suspension is not my main priority. It will get done at some point you just have to be patient

 

[Gunna!]

Now I'm just saying, if I became SLT All your problems would be solved

 

[opp]

People will not fulfill these quotas unless they are intrinsically motivated to do so, which is incredibly rare within the teaching factions these days.

Which is why, this can be applied for and SLT can accept them coming into faction or not. Which is why I said if it became something it would be SLT choices to see if it will actually pull through.

Because it should be the responsibility of the faction leads, not of other players. I'm not against experienced players in their respective factions helping the newer ones, but they shouldn't be responsible for everything; the SLT needs to be the ones maintaining their own factions, making sure the content of their staff's roleplay is engaging for the common player base, ensuring they are knowledgeable of IC and OOC protocols, and anything else that generally comes with the "SLT" title.

I understand, which I wish this could happen but it’s either SLT not really wanting to become their chars unless it’s events or just busy.. but I feel like even if this suggestion is able to show SLT that they are really needed more in the faction, it still won’t work out as much.

I believe SLT needs to involve themselves more within their factions ICly.

Same, the only SLT I really see active time to time would be the Vice-principle Aiko.

Just saying, just because they don't get to it immediately doesn't mean that they won't. And just stopping to do it because of that adds onto the problem of them not getting handled :

It’s not like we pressure SLT, for it to be done. It’s something that most of us wouldn’t like to just constantly ping SLT for a lot of the times, and like said before they are mostly BUSY to be able to do anything for that day or time until someone else has to report the student again, having someone be able to put in a log of needing to give someone suspension or explusion would make things easier.

SLT already does that perfectly fine. Since everyone is responsible for a part of the faculty if we need anything we can contact them directly. Besides we already have an event Calendar where we know when which big event is happening.

Yeah, but due to SLT mainly being busy with other stuff cause SLT is mainly filled with Admins+, Not MAINY of the events that are in the calendar ever happens

I’ll start with the earliest :
Careers day
Club rush
Waterpark trip (but I think it’s not implemented in yet so understandable)
Another Parent-Teacher Consultation
Cultural day
Monastery trip (with the Shrine Faction member saying it’s dead, it could of possibly gave more light to the Monastery and would of been fun)
And Summer Disco.

do I assume staff just didn’t want to do these? No! I just like said before SLT is just busy with other things.

general I’m against this idea. Faculty job can be done just fine with the current roles we have and there is really no need someone to be the “middle man” between faculty and SLT.

There is no middle man to anything, School board is literally like School Admins. These admins don’t have any higher position as a teacher but focus on different part of the school environment. This isn’t just to put a separation but to help with the overload of school, and more organized.