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kuhaylewn
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We did see that having a high number of players but separating them does decrease lag (e.g., College exams where people were placed in different areas, or the Sports Day Event that had 300+ players, but due to the fact that everyone was relatively equally spread out, it wasn't that laggy) so +1
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i've built for countless events and also for the boo bash yesterday. i agree with your suggestion, i'd just like to point out a few things
to sum this up, i agree with your suggestion, just wanted to point a few things out to make things clearer for you as someone who works on the events
i've built for countless events and also for the boo bash yesterday. i agree with your suggestion, i'd just like to point out a few things
while it was to be expected, not every event has the same issue, or at least, not as huge as yesterday's, we make the builds based on what is asked to do and the location, so sometimes we are also trapped within one spot. still i'll gladly take this in consideration for the next layouts we will make, if able to
i agree with this, but using the baseball field is kinda a bad example. Places with plugins activated need to be de-activated before building, or we will lose our stuff/just won't be able to build, which is sometimes a pain to settle down. this is why the baseball field is only used rarely and the gym only for big events like school dances and stuff, instead i'd use places like the back of the school or part of the track field that doesn't include the jump stawf in the middle
from a builder's perspective, the layouts we place down are also made so they won't leave out any empty spaces, with smaller events this couldn't really be possible as there are less structures to fill the empty spaces with. also, we have to follow the lead the event host gives us, therefore the location, so we can't reaaallyyyyyyy change everything however we'd like. still we will take this in consideration and talk to the event host about it in the future, to prevent crashes to happen.
this is something i have thought of! i think it could be a nice idea, just not sure how well it's gonna go since the events happening are 'canon' to the story and they'd have to transfer every player's history there. still that could be a solution
to sum this up, i agree with your suggestion, just wanted to point a few things out to make things clearer for you as someone who works on the events
I truly appreciate you taking the time to fill in the gaps from the other side, and in a thourough way! <3
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I feel having protocols to prevent the game from lagging over worse case crashing on everyone would be a good thing to have for everyone's satisfaction, however From what I remembered in the boo bash, I did not disconnect a single time during the majority of the event, and I cant say the same for everyone else. So this would help players who aren't using a stronger device, and for people like me with no strong pc, it might just make a slight difference.
I feel having protocols to prevent the game from lagging over worse case crashing on everyone would be a good thing to have for everyone's satisfaction, however From what I remembered in the boo bash, I did not disconnect a single time during the majority of the event, and I cant say the same for everyone else. So this would help players who aren't using a stronger device, and for people like me with no strong pc, it might just make a slight difference.
Yes, the server buckled hard but stayed up (perhaps that's why it felt like more lag, who knows)
I do fully agree that it's a consideration to be had about ensuring everyone can experience the event!
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W idea honestly. Lag is a major issue during events and many people do just NOT COME..
W idea honestly. Lag is a major issue during events and many people do just NOT COME..
we have protocols in place for things like this, we just happened to misinterpret the size of the playerbase we’d be getting in this particular event. As the build team coordinator and a level designer we make mistakes from time to time when we estimate how big these events are going to be but we also have systems in place to make up for any mistakes made. If your suggestion is to simply plan ahead, we already do that. It just happened to be the case where we miscalculated this time around.
I don't really know what to think about this. I do agree that the underlying issue (the lag and constant server crashes) has to be resolved SOMEHOW, but on the other hand, I can't just +1 a suggestion that could potentially force me to focus on the event itself. Personally, I'm not a big fan of events, and that's just my take. I don't really participate in them. Does it mean it should stop? HELL NO! Please continue making events and make good memories; it's just not the way I play. So, in this sense, I wouldn't want to be forced to stop playing Volleyball because there is an event going on on the other side of town (or even at school).
I'm aware there's some amount of planning ahead, however: These sorts of issues have existed on SRP for at least 5 years. There have been events in the past of comporable lag. I'd like to think that, the moment you get lag to the point of unplayability for some people, the protocols adapt to handle such severities.
I truthfully don't think these mistakes should happen period, and the protocols in place should be to minimize this occurence.
To say that “mistakes shouldn’t happen” isn’t really fair considering we’re all human and it’s bound to happen. Statistically speaking this is the first NEAR crash due to an event that has happened in a year or more (excluding exam days), and the server didn’t even crash.
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adding something that i've just read from a staff member, the event server is used for very big events only (such as exams for example). the event yesterday wasn't big enough for it to be held in the event server, therefore the usual srp events cannot be hosted there
I'd like to think saying "mistakes that lead to unplayability shouldn't happen" is a fair statement: Something happens that leads to people being unable to engage with something is a bad thing, regardless of avoidability.
Like yes, obviously there will be occurences like this regardless of how much you plan, I'm not disagreeing with that (and maybe my phrasing was poor; if so, I apologize), but if there's actions that can be done to minimize the lag events bring, then I simply think they should be discussed/brought up!
from our perspective, we expected the event to have a 310 player cap max, we didn't expect 360 to log on, hence why the really close server crash. the events are planned days/weeks in advance, but we will take in consideration the layout stuff you've mentioned
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