What's your Minecraft Username?: frenzyyy
What's the title of your suggestion?: Automated Class System

What's your suggestion?:
What's your Minecraft Username?:
frenzyyy

What's the title of your suggestion?:
Automated Class System

What's your suggestion?:
I think it would be cool to have an automated class system. NPC's could be used as professors for when nobody is online. These NPC's could begin talking when class begins... It would be less interactive however it would give the opportunity for people to continue roleplaying, especially when professors are offline. I think there could be some scripts written out for all kinds of classes. These are just filler classes, it would not take away from real Professor Classes and could be cancelled by Professors when they are choosing a period to teach in.

These classes could also have a question system, it would work like a quest almost, or like the "unscramble" chat game. The NPC would ask a question, then players would type out their answers in chat, if its the correct wording/near correct wording, they would receive an approval message and maybe a little reward?

These classes could have homework given out at the end, in which students would take a book n quill and complete the task, (for example, English class would be write a short story of your own. Bad example but you get the point). The school could have a little dispenser for homework to be handed into or a professor NPC to right click and give your homework to. Then homework could be marked by Professors and maybe you could get a small reward like some money, a skill, something.

It would be a little work but I really think it could help keep classes alive when professors are unable to teach or not online.

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Alternative Idea:

You walk into a scheduled class on your timetable, you automatically get given a little worksheet or quiz paper with questions regarding that subject. You would answer them, complete the work and get to leave. This would be a more simplified version of the idea above. I can picture people in class, finishing their assignments and saying to their friends, "i've finished, see you outside".

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Let me know your thoughts, thank you!
Ben :)

How will this benefit the server and community?:
It would enhance the class system roleplay. It would allow people to go to classes without the need of Professors being active 24/7. Everyone would of course prefer and look forward to a real professor, however it would be nice to be able to attend classes when they're offline or unable to host a class.

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After reconsideration reading everyone's thoughts and opinions, I do actually agree with the most of you. The interaction is the spark that is brought to classes, not just classes themselves. I think that NPC's could be there for Homework perhaps, where there could be a teacher Tom Brown that hands out diffetent assignments each week, or something small like that. However, not classes. After thinking about all of this and taking it into consideration, I retract this suggestion. Thank you! :)

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Teacher players put so much effort into the classes they provide, it is one of the most stress inducing things on SRP. Having an NPC to replicate that would just be disrespectful to their work. Second, that would take an awful amount of effort to produce what would essentially be a buzzfeed quiz with extra steps. It isn't worth the dev's time to first create and then up-keep that.

I understand that it is annoying and frustrating when you are logged on and forced to stay in the school with no teachers online to teach, but you have to be patient. Many teachers are dealing with burnout and the new ones don't get nearly the same amount of attention or respect that NQT and QT get which can make the faction disheartening to interact with sometimes. But you just have to be patient. Teachers will teach throughout the month for quota, you just have to catch the times right.

As a professor I don't think this is something the devs should waste their time on, college students in general barely show up to class as I rarely see over 5 people in one class. For grade 12s there usually are classes which take a lot of time to be able to set-up, so in general I just think it takes away from the fact the server is run by it's players and the effort put in by these players.

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I am actually neutral on this..

The teacher/professor faction and classes will always be player-ran, like stated in earlier replies. They put in a lot of work into making the classes fun and interactive for players, and that should continue being rewarded.

But I do think there could be room for some sort of addition to the daily rewards system (currently, just Tom Brown) that involves more school-related tasks. These could be a great way for new players to feel more immersed, making actual school assignments. Possibly in exchange for a little bit of yen or stickers, though I can see stickers staying exclusive to actual player-to-player interactions.

frenzyyy said:

These classes could have homework given out at the end, in which students would take a book n quill and complete the task, (for example, English class would be write a short story of your own. Bad example but you get the point). The school could have a little dispenser for homework to be handed into or a professor NPC to right click and give your homework to. Then homework could be marked by Professors and maybe you could get a small reward like some money, a skill, something.

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I feel like this is close to a decent solution, here's what I'd change

The way I envision it is by adding some NPC in the school, likely near the front desk which can give a student character a short book with some assignments. You want these to be instantly redeemable, so you're mainly looking at simple maths, basic spelling/grammar or multiple choice questions. The player can then hand in a signed and completed book and instantly receive a small reward based on what they submitted. Multiple choice questions in particular could serve as a great way to teach new players about the lore and history of the server and Karakura, similar to the college exams.
This "quest" could be repeated every school day (?) or at any other interval which makes sense, like periods 2-4 or OOC days.
wink wink http://schoolrp.net/threads/adding-a-system-of-daily-quests-to-srp.76234/post-266820

This is clearly in no way meant to replace the teacher faction. It is meant to fill in the gaps and provide new players, or those in unfortunate time zones the possibility to immerse themselves easier, without the need of waiting for teachers.

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reasons stated above

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Teachers and professors are players for a reason. Other reasons are likely stated above. I don't think we should be replacing anything else with NPCs.

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this was suggested before and was denied

Unpopular opinion here, but I think that most of what our teachers / professors are currently doing could be accomplished by NPCs. To be more specific, any non-roleplay oriented activity (such as lectures, written assignments, and even most quiz games) could probably be automated. Of course, it would be impossible for an NPC to replicate any actually engaging lessons, in which teachers encourage their students to interact with themselves and one another. Frankly, I think SRP should have phased out the non-roleplay oriented lessons ages ago, so implementing a bot to do them automatically wouldn't really do much for anyone.

What I do think would be interesting would be automated activities, where players would basically just play a mi****me for the duration of a class period. For example, they might be taken to a sports plugin, or play some sort of epic and fun game. These would be almost entirely detached from roleplay, yet would still provide something for players to do when there aren't any teachers or professors available.

Do I think this will, or even should be implemented? No. SRP keeps most of its things player-run, and while I do think NPC activities would be interesting, I don't think it's within the scope of the server.

philbertman42 said:

Unpopular opinion here, but I think that most of what our teachers / professors are currently doing could be accomplished by NPCs. To be more specific, any non-roleplay oriented activity (such as lectures, written assignments, and even most quiz games) could probably be automated. Of course, it would be impossible for an NPC to replicate any actually engaging lessons, in which teachers encourage their students to interact with themselves and one another. Frankly, I think SRP should have phased out the non-roleplay oriented lessons ages ago, so implementing a bot to do them automatically wouldn't really do much for anyone.

What I do think would be interesting would be automated activities, where players would basically just play a mi****me for the duration of a class period. For example, they might be taken to a sports plugin, or play some sort of epic and fun game. These would be almost entirely detached from roleplay, yet would still provide something for players to do when there aren't any teachers or professors available.

Do I think this will, or even should be implemented? No. SRP keeps most of its things player-run, and while I do think NPC activities would be interesting, I don't think it's within the scope of the server.

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Adding onto philbertman's opinion, i think that if there's an issue with the current classes it should be accomplished with more expectations and reforms with the factions members themselves rather than just erasing the teachers and professors

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I used to be a +1 on suggestions like this, especially when we had few classes per week. Now, it's another story: there are enough classes per week to keep school entertaining enough, so I do not see any reason why an NPC should be replacing a teacher or professor. Plus, some of the teachers in the faction are. . . +999, and I do NOT wish to see any replacement on the quality of work they put in! <3

(Also, this is giving me the AI v. Tailors flashback)

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roleplay with npcs wont be intetesting at all.

Having a scripted class than being on the spot is more enjoyable, to me atleast. Since it gives the oppoturnity to an actually question that the NPC can't be provided to answer back properly.

The reason why some of the teachers and professors aren't as active on teaching, is due to many things. Could be that they're busy with OOCly stuff, or preparing their lectures by researching them and preparing perhaps a quiz after the end their discussions or planning a game activity that still revolves around their lectures that can be enjoyable for the class to enjoy.

Plus, us faculty (or atleast that I'm aware of) we tend to handout homeworks or quizzes after discussions. But considering, if the entire class would be just answering questions then in all honesty It would be a waste of time for a period that you and your students would be on. Which is why having lectures or activities which can be games for both the professor/teacher and students can participate in, is more fun and enjoyable than handing out homeworks and quizzes/seatworks.

Take it from someone who's joined faculty since 2021 and retired here and there. But I doubt they'll add an NPC to fill out for the professors and teachers who aren't able to host classes which tbh, for me I'd doubt it, with each month passing by a new prof/teach is added to the roster and will host frequently till they burntout from the exhaustion of hosting classes.

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Plain and simple it's bad idea. It takes many resources to code and configure the bot to only perform at a linear level, what will it do when there's so many things happening at once, what happens if it breaks, who will look after these bots.. Already teacher/professor are one of the most stressful factions on the server having to deal with many circumstances at once, whether it's hosting classes, making assignments, dealing with rowdy students, and also grading + displaying the grades on the Academy DC Bultin board, already it's a lot of stuff teachers have to do in the beginning of every month. And not to forget that OOCly teachers/professors also go through their own stresses in life and the last thing they want is for the server they play on adds on to their stress then what they're already experiencing. And like what Urrufu said having to replace human work with AI or bots is very disrespectful and is actually an every so growing problem outside of SRP.

Plus it's also objective that humans are more unique and complex then a simple NPC, and not only could we have different and unique actions, but also managing multiple at once if we get the hang of it. Bot in the other hand are linear only set to say and do certain things according to their code and algorithm which not only makes what they say predictable but also linear to where it what they only do or say. This would make bots more of a liability then a helping with managing the school not only for the teacher/professor faction but to the staff who work on the server.

Feel like something similar to this suggestion was made before but I’m unsure, anyways -1

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Denied
Thank you for your suggestion! After discussing this with the team we have decided to decline it.