What's your Minecraft Username?: Lunere
What's the title of your suggestion?: Teacher & Professor Bonus

What's your suggestion?:
With the new graduate system that’s been implemented for the past several months, I’ve noticed that not a lot of teachers / professors assign homework and or they take rather a while to grade them. From what I’ve seen and heard that some students have to wait months before receiving a grade. I’ve also came to learn that teachers and professors don’t get extra pay for the time and effort put in to assign and grade the homework. Which is rather demotivating I’d say.

Therefore, I believe they should get some sort of extra pay, bonus, on their paycheck when grading homework. I can understand why they wouldn’t want to grade homework if they’re getting same base pay. It doesn’t feel motivating for them to sit and grade homework even though it’s part of their responsibilities.

If this were to happen I believe this could help get homework grading out much quicker so students can get their results back. Not only would this help the students gain their education credits they’ve been waiting for but the teacher / professor will get that bonus in their paycheck.

How much of a bonus they should get really varies. A good bonus that seems reasonable is at least 50,000¥ or even 75,000¥. This doesn’t count per homework grade they do instead it’s just a bonus they get per month if they graded homework.

To help prevent the extra bonus from getting abused, I’d say the teacher and professor must grade a minimum of a 100 homework. Now, I don’t know how much homework is given out by each professor and teacher therefore if this minimum is too low then it can be set higher by the Faction Lead.

How will this benefit the server and community?:
As I mentioned this will help speed up the months backlog of homework needing grading for some students if not most. This will help students get their education credits much faster after waiting a long amount of time for their homework results. It will also provide a better motivation for the teachers and professors to grade the given homework by receiving a much needed bonus in their paycheck.

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dawg they get 500,000 a month they do NOT need anymore pay. If anyone wants more than that then they just greedy bro :sob:
When you join the teacher faction, you are signing up to creating and grading homework. If people are not up to do it then do not join, it's as simple as that.

I would also like to add that 50k-75k is NOT reasonable in the slightest. In the shrine faction, we are paid 100,000. ONE person gets a tiiinyy bit more than that and that is if they do double their monthly quota.

urufu said:

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dawg they get 500,000 a month they do NOT need anymore pay. If anyone wants more than that then they just greedy bro :sob:
When you join the teacher faction, you are signing up to creating and grading homework. If people are not up to do it then do not join, it's as simple as that.

I would also like to add that 50k-75k is NOT reasonable in the slightest. In the shrine faction, we are paid 100,000. ONE person gets a tiiinyy bit more than that and that is if they do double their monthly quota.

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I understand what you’re saying. An alternative I did have in mind for this was an automatic grading system to help reduce stress from the teachers and to help with backlogs of homework in need of grading. However, I don’t know if this is possible.

lune said:

I understand what you’re saying. An alternative I did have in mind for this was an automatic grading system to help reduce stress from the teachers and to help with backlogs of homework in need of grading. However, I don’t know if this is possible.

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Just going to slide this your way about the whole auto-grading system. For subjects that are more practical, such as what I teach (art), it's impossible to get a "correct" answer.

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OKAY – So for me there are two sides to this; the first is the whole 'yes yes' part. So as professors, in this faction specifically, we get demotivated at points in the year, and that can vary for the situation! So I personally like NEVER getting demotivated (no clue why), BUT if I'm being honest, for what some professors in this faction struggle with… I can see this severely benefitting them! BUT for the -1 here… Last I checked, SLTs get paid around 700k a month. If this little bonus gets implemented, it could up a max hosting professor's pay (500k and 550k if top professor for the month) by up to 620k-ish! Meaning that there's only around a 70k-90k-ish difference between a PROFESSOR and SLT. Though I do really think that it'd be really nice and give an extra bit of motivation… It would just ruin the faction, as it'd attract people who JUST WANT MONEY (which in the professor faction's case is something we DON'T WANT AT ALL), and it'd just be unrealistic. Though honestly, up the pay for the maidens GAHHH

edit: Also, Professors on average grade 100 pieces of homework per 6-8 months (We dont got enough students)

lune said:

I understand what you’re saying. An alternative I did have in mind for this was an automatic grading system to help reduce stress from the teachers and to help with backlogs of homework in need of grading. However, I don’t know if this is possible.

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As a professor who issues homework regularly and has also gotten two college tags through the /graduate system, this isn't something we can automate. 99% of homework tasks ever are written word answers and answering these responses cannot be automated. If the argument of multiple choice questions is to be made, I would say -1000 on the suggestion for that. Homework is already so unfathomably easy, we do not need to make it easier.

As for the main suggestion itself;
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Our minimum salary just for producing 10 classes as a professor is 350,000 yen. This is more than most factions earn or can earn, period. While more money is always awesome, I don't think this is fair in the slightest to any other faction.

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this seems more like a suggestion you should make to your SLT for them to talk about it with themselves. but overall, no. Professors and Teachers already get a 'bonus' if you are the faculty of the month.

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offering my opinion as someone who has been on both sides of the wealth gap and my insight from that !!

teachers are absolutely the most underpaid profession. taught over 850+ classes and i am certain i made more as a bmd or as a shopkeeper in a 1-2 (1-7 day in some cases) month period then i did as my like 2 year span as a teacher and later a professor. the main reason people seek out teaching roles will always be for the love of the game but i think it wouldn't hurt to prioritise their needs more, like it couldn't hurt.

also as a factor: it wasn't always this bad. on the first, second map and for a while during the third, teachers were still very much the highest paid players. this changed with the introduction of shopkeepers, kpd and bmd and they stayed as the fourth highest for a while before a slow descent (every new role that got added for a while there were all paid higher then teachers as an incentive to fill newly formed factions). obviously you can't pay them too much to combat inflation or because of other factors but their current salary probably/definitely isn't proportionate to their importance to the servers health and it should at least have a slight increase for all of the work they put in

edit: just to visualise it more. say i got paid 400k every month for a 2 year period, which i didn't because you were paid 100k in 2016 (although considering srp inflation, that 100k is worth like 10mil today considering everyone made like 1000-20000 yen a day) and not that much higher by 2017-8 although i was paid around that 400k amount during my stint as a professor in 2021?2? unsure. anyways you'd have 9.6 million for 2 years work before expenses.

then compare that to literally any month during this like 9 month period that i happened to actually document
shoutout to any former employees of herrington holdings, AUFFALLEN, fight club or KAD or if u were a just a shareholder....

i was paid just over 20 times that of a 2025 teacher yrly salary in 2021 (just in the first 9 months) after tax but before expenses (which granted, my expenses for at least the first 3 financial quarters was 76mil that were necessary purchases which as a percentage is probably higher than avg player expenses but like we all have expenses that make our true savings dwarfed)

also as a teacher now you definitely made less then a vast majority of my employees if they attended every shift i offered (much less difficult then a teacher role in 70% of cases) who usually only had around 4 shifts a month they were offered and at the most 8 shifts a month if they were more integral. (and those who were more integral did then stand to make WAY more and there were heavy incentives based on your performance. i paid almost everyone way above avg rates at the time. my employees could make anywhere from 2-400k a month to 2+ million each monthly depending on what exactly they did under herrington holdings compared to my 3.88 mil monthly or 35mil profit/assumed salary for Q1-3)

not an argument to say we should pay bmd or shopkeepers less, i would say i deserved to make as much as i did back then definitely and there is a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes that people don't necessarily credit whenever this topic comes up BUT that we should definitely pay teachers like at least a marginal bit more or have incentives such as a higher pay rate depending on how long you have been in the role (only including active months). maybe an argument could be made that teachers who work for 6+ months get a pay bump or some other payment scheme like that.

Benspudgydad said:

SLTs get paid around 700k a month

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i wish i was paid this much per month

anyway, -1 to the suggestion! with homework having been added, it's included in responsibilities for teachers/professors when they apply (aka they sort of go into the job now, expecting to give out homework) so i don't personally see a need for any bonus

Toto said:

teachers are absolutely the most underpaid profession.

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teachers pay for doing the absolute bare minimum in the faction is 350% larger than shrine's pay for doing the absolute maximum </3

urufu said:

teachers pay for doing the absolute bare minimum in the faction is 250% larger than shrine's pay for doing the absolute maximum </3

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i didn't read your initial comment or factor that in. they deserve to be paid well too and i have a great fondness for the faction but that is sort of a different discussion to be had which perhaps should be had !!

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Whilst I like the idea of some form of bonus for people with grading hw and stuff adding extra pay to teachers (which is easily accessible to new players) means that they have some of the highest pay out there (For comparison KPD only get 400k max and teachers get 500k) and that just creates alot of contreversy.

If not already done, some form of HW quota may be good ? But other than that nah

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This is a part of the job now, teachers and professors are amongst the highest paid jobs in SchoolRP already, I don't think it needs to be anymore.
However, we could potentially bring forward some rewards through challenges including homework to encourage more homework being given and marked properly in future :)

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