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Customs for bmds and street and organized gangs.

_Wachin_

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What's your Minecraft Username?: _Wachin_
What's the title of your suggestion?: Customs for bmds and street and organized gangs.

What's your suggestion?:
Want to start the suggestion off by saying I’ve heard other people suggest similar things, just trying to make it a formal suggestion.

BMD Customs:
I first came up with this idea around 2 ago and it is basically giving each Black Market Dealer their exclusive custom that they would know sell (mentioning it in the roster). This would just be adding a gimmick to each particular dealer.

Say, BMD A has a custom pipe wrench, BMD B has a custom pocket knife, BMD C has a custom bat (think you all get the point I’m trying to make). Feel like this would make people wait for different bmds to open and would just be a cool way of getting customs back into the game while I believe respecting mc’s eula (I was told custom weapons were removed due to mot being able to make money off of weapons in minecraft).

Street/Organized Gang Customs:
Heard this idea recently in suggestions channel in Karakura Crime, not claiming it just want to get the point across.

The way I think this should be done is once a gang gets street or organized status they receive a gang custom (whether the weapon was chosen by the lead, voted by the gang or just decided by staff). I’d say the design should be tied to the gang’s lore. I’ll use a UK based gang as an example: If they were to get street or organized status it wouldn’t make sense for them to get a recolored naginata or a recolored katana. As an example I’d say they should use things as regular knives (butterflies, “zombie” knives, etc) or if they were to use katana stats they could use a machete for example.


Adding this would make getting street or organized status even more rewarding and make gangs have an even bigger motivation to be active. Also could add great lore as to how the gang got their weapon. However, I feel like there’d be two approaches.

A: Give the custom as soon as the gang reached street. Upon receiving street status, gangs would be given a custom slot falling under the leader’s username. The lead would then be told to choose (or be given by staff) a regular weapon to get it’s stats from. If the leader’s changed so would the custom’s ownership in order to keep it easier to control by staff and for it to not be exploited by leads backing down from their gang leaving their members without their customs they worked for.

B: Give a first custom when they received street and then give a second one upon reaching organized. I’d say make the first custom be a weapon and the second one to be a custom mask for example. The reason why I’d male the weapon be first is due to there being no other way of getting them in game as you can’t purchase them anymore. Even though this approach might be over the top (I clearly understand why A would be more understandable) I feel like this would make the gangs really feel more powerful within the server and could lead to some really cool IC lore. Also would make these items feel more unique and valuable and would make these people fear being mugged or losing their weapons and masks to kpd.

How will this benefit the server and community?:
I reckon this would benefit the community by breathing some fresh air into the black market, making people want to look for other dealers and want to collect these. And the second suggestion would help make gang’s feel more motivated and allow for interesting new additions to their lore while bringing back something everyone in gangRP and maybe even the server loves (custom weapons obviously). Bringing them back this way would make it so people actually work for it and they’d still be really rare while adding a new level of risk and reward with that being risking your customs in order to take the other gang’s.
 
Neutral. I like the idea and it does seem cool, But rather than dealer exclusive maybe it should be day exclusive? Only issue I see with it being dealer exclusive is the fact BMD use a hotline. You'd have to basically metagame what dealer it is to know what weapon is being sold which of course is against the rules. I may be wrong about how BMD works though so correct me if I am wrong.
 
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I don’t think giving out custom items to players for free is necessarily a good idea, nor something staff would actively support. The main reason is that the Media team would need to be compensated for the work involved. Let me put it this way:
  • A BMD (or Organized Gang Lead) requests a custom model to sell, so the BML gets in contact with the Media Lead
  • The Media Lead would then have to assign a 3D-Modeller to make this item
  • The 3D Modeller would have to be paid one way or another; I don't doubt some may offer to do so for free, but that shouldn't be the standard
  • Suggesting using "server funds" doesn’t work here either, because there’s no income stream to cover these expenses, meaning the server would lose money every time a request like this was completed.
I’ve seen similar suggestions with shopkeepers, where people wanted them to receive free custom slots to sell dedicated items, but they were ultimately denied because of the reasons I stated above.

If I'm not wrong, BMD has sold custom weapons during Dark Auctions for a pretty penny in the past. This sounds like a more reasonable option, as no server expenses are getting drained, considering they'd just be recycling old weapons that no longer belong to a private owner. Moreover, this system would also allow BMDs to sell their custom-owned weapons with no administrative issues
 
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I don’t think giving out custom items to players for free is necessarily a good idea, nor something staff would actively support. The main reason is that the Media team would need to be compensated for the work involved. Let me put it this way:
  • A BMD (or Organized Gang Lead) requests a custom model to sell, so the BML gets in contact with the Media Lead
  • The Media Lead would then have to assign a 3D-Modeller to make this item
  • The 3D Modeller would have to be paid one way or another; I don't doubt some may offer to do so for free, but that shouldn't be the standard
  • Suggesting using "server funds" doesn’t work here either, because there’s no income stream to cover these expenses, meaning the server would lose money every time a request like this was completed.
I’ve seen similar suggestions with shopkeepers, where people wanted them to receive free custom slots to sell dedicated items, but they were ultimately denied because of the reasons I stated above.

If I'm not wrong, BMD has sold custom weapons during Dark Auctions for a pretty penny in the past. This sounds like a more reasonable option, as no server expenses are getting drained, considering they'd just be recycling old weapons that no longer belong to a private owner. Moreover, this system would also allow BMDs to sell their custom-owned weapons with no administrative issues
That does sound reasonable, hadn’t heard about this feature, could be a more realistic way of somewhat implementing what I tried to get across.
 
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no, and even if this did get accepted. The server cant make any more custom weapons due to the minecraft eula
 
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no, and even if this did get accepted. The server cant make any more custom weapons due to the minecraft eula
As I said in my suggestion, I believe it is not allowed due to minecraft EULA banning making money from it, what I suggested was free so it wouldn’t break the EULA.
 
As I said in my suggestion, I believe it is not allowed due to minecraft EULA banning making money from it, what I suggested was free so it wouldn’t break the EULA.
Regardless of the specifics, the rule on SRP is no more new custom weapons. And it's very unlikely that they'd add customs to the pack for gangs due to the fact that they are not a faction, or BMD which very much do not need new customs.
 
You know I’m not actually sure why SRP removed custom item katanas, they could have named it “sword” and practically kept the same functionality since the servers functions don’t specifically endorse violence outside the stats each weapon provides, which could just be changed to a vague “weapon” text.

I’ve read through the content use, brand safety and community standard guidelines 100 times and it only enforces the rule on server endorsing themes of adult content, you don’t necessarily endorse it by putting a katana out into the world and if you did the simple fact is, Minecraft would have to remove killing animals and their own swords and schoolRP would have to ban GangRP altogether.
 
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Honestly? I want more weapon customs! Cmon, criminals deserve variety too, only bat actions can get boring.

And if EULA doesn't like weapons? As Customable said, workarounds can be figured out.

Anyway, +1 cause I love custom weapons.
 
You know I’m not actually sure why SRP removed custom item katanas, they could have named it “sword” and practically kept the same functionality since the servers functions don’t specifically endorse violence outside the stats each weapon provides, which could just be changed to a vague “weapon” text.

I’ve read through the content use, brand safety and community standard guidelines 100 times and it only enforces the rule on server endorsing themes of adult content, you don’t necessarily endorse it by putting a katana out into the world and if you did the simple fact is, Minecraft would have to remove killing animals and their own swords and schoolRP would have to ban GangRP altogether.
honest to god ive always kind of wondered about this
 
Neutral. I spoke about this very vaguely and barely went into it the other week on the suggestions channel in Karakura Crime. I do think handing out customs to everyone who joins a gang is OTT (over the top). Instead, a better idea would be for both street-gangs, and organised gangs to be able to request a custom weapon for their gang. BUT, it'd have to resemble and be based on your gangs themes and aesthetic.

Though, like a few have already said, EULA may not state it's not allowed to have custom weapons for free, but I dont see staff reverting the rule back again, despite rules changing and coming back a lot. Still, neutral.
 

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