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LordI'mCrafty

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Cheesecake is a hybrid between cake and pie due to its structure, ingredients, and the way it is baked, cooked, and served. Some people classify it as a torte due to the use of many eggs, which are the sole source of leavening, while others find compelling evidence that it is a custard pie based on the overall structure, with the separate crust, the soft filling, and the absence of flour. Some sources identify it as a flan or tart. However, some argue that cheesecake is its own thing, and it can be served without a shell, unlike tarts. Alton Brown has stated that cheesecake is a pie, while Boston cream pie is a cake.


Cheesecake


Distinguishing Features: First off—yes, this is a pie, since it uses a graham-cracker crust that’s synonymous with pies. The other main ingredient is cream cheese or ricotta, which can be combined with myriad other flavors

Cheesecake has become one of the world's most beloved desserts, and for a good reason. With a rich and creamy filling made of cream cheese, eggs, and sugar, cheesecake is a decadent delight that is sure to please even the pickiest of eaters. What many don't realize is that cheesecake is not really a cake at all, but rather, a pie! Cheesecake is made with a graham cracker crust which is baked just the same as a true apple or pecan pie. While cheesecake does have many of the same ingredients and textures as a traditional cake, it is in fact a pie!

1. Cheesecake is truly a delight to the senses, however, it isn't truly a cake, it meets all the requirements to be deemed a pie. With it's classic graham cracker crust, creamy and decadent filling, and the fact that it is baked as a true pie and not a cake, it deserves to be classified as a pie

2. Cheesecake has a distinct crust, filling, and bake time that clearly places it in the category of pies. With these clear characteristics similar to baked pies such as apple pie and pecan pie, it is clear to see why it should be regarded as a pie.

3. Despite the name 'cheesecake' one can't deny that this delectable dessert is truly a pie. With it's distinct crust, creamy and delicious filling, and baked in the same manner that pies such as apple and pecan are, it is clear to see why it should be classified as a pie. Cheesecake may be named after a cake but truly the way it is made in every way, makes is a wonderful pie.


4. Cheesecake has a unique and creamy filling that is filled with the flavors of fresh or baked fruit, nuts, and of course cheese, this filling when baked creates a unique texture of smooth creamy goodness that makes it clearly not a cake but a pie.

5. If cheese has a crust, filling, and is baked in the same way that pies are, then the only logical categorization is that it is a pie and not a cake. Therefore, cheese cake is clearly not a cake but rather, a wonderful pie.

ITS A FUCKING PIE.
 
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Angry

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It's like a hybrid of the two, given that it has a pie-like crust but I mean.. It does have cake in it's name..
 

ErikFinster

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Hmmm... Good argument.
But its structured around comparing cheesecake's characteristics with typical pies.
HOWEVER, you often rely on the assumption that the presence of a crust and a creamy filling are definitive factors in categorizing a dessert as a pie. I would argue that this assumption might be too narrow. Other desserts (like tarts or flans) also share these characteristics!

You also put a lot of emphasis on "Name vs. Nature" and the discrepancy between the name 'cheesecake' and its characteristics. I admit - it is compelling. But again, not definitive ... as culinary nomenclature often includes historical and cultural factors that transcend ingredient composition and preparation methods. Also, culinary classifications can be quite subjective and vary by cultural and region.

I'm not yet convinced...
 

staceyz

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omg NO... a pie?!? it's cheeseCAKE! period

calling cheesecake a PIE is a crime! cheesecake and things like steak pie are worlds apart .. this is like saying icecream is cheese because they both have milk in it

the cheesecake having a soft "crust" (not pastry like pie) which is often made of soft biscuit (or cookie in america) does not make it a pie grrr cheesecake is cheese cake
 

LordI'mCrafty

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the only reason they named it cheese cake since cheese pie sounds not normal

cheese cake is indeed a pie
 

Valentine_Lols

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Cheesecake is technically a tart, not a cake or pie. A tart being an open base filled with sweet or savory filling!!!!

First,

Let's consider the primary ingredient and defining feature of cheesecake. .

  • Creamy
a filling made predominantly from cream cheese.
Pies, on the other hand, typically feature a filling made from:

  • Fruits
  • Custard
  • Or other ingredients(NOT CREAM CHEESE).

Something to be considered a pie lies between a pastry crust and a filling that is solid or semi-solid when baked. In contrast, cheesecake relies on a smooth, creamy texture that doesn't conform to the traditional way of a pie filling.

Moreover, the crust of a cheesecake is fundamentally different from that of a pie!

Pies typically have a flaky or crumbly crust made from flour, butter, and water.
Cheesecakes boast a denser and often sweeter crust, usually consisting of crushed graham crackers or cookies combined with butter.

This distinction in crust composition highlights the unique character of cheesecake and sets it apart from the pastry-centric nature of pies.

Furthermore, the baking process furthers the contrast between cheesecake and pies. Traditional pies are baked with the intention of creating a whole within a structured crust. Hence, being baked as a whole. In contrast, cheesecake is often baked in a springform pan without a top crust, allowing the creamy filling to set without becoming firm, the crust usually being baked before the filling.

OH AND pumpkin pie is also not a pie, but a tart? Same for pecan pie
I can't fit much here but, it's similar to the 'which came first, the chicken or the egg' bs..
 
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