Snitching changes

[Lizalopod]

IGN: GemiLightning
DATE: 11/23/2021
WHAT YOU WANT TO SUGGEST OR MENTION:
I would like to suggest that snitching perms be relooked, possibly changed as I think that tweaking them to be less severe would contribute to more realistic roleplay.
HOW WILL THIS BENEFIT THE SERVER/COMMUNITY?:
Currently contacting the police, or snitching as it's most commonly known for, can grant the opposing party KPS if they find evidence of it, something which most people just go ahead and immediately kill for, which I feel is completely unrealistic. I personally think it would be more likely for someone to be intimidated into canceling the call or simply beat up for something like snitching on a crime being committed, especially if the crime doesn't even entail killing (minor at best, major at worst honestly).

By making snitching perms less severe, it will encourage onlookers to actually call the police on situations instead of just watching gang roleplay happen in the middle of the street. It will also encourage criminals to attempt to hide their actions more whether that be attempting to more silently nab victims or performing their actions somewhere secret.

And to those saying "Well, if you don't want your character to be killed then don't snitch lol xd", Is that really realistic? If someone saw someone else commit a crime, isn't it common sense to report the darn thing? People committing crimes simply shouldn't be doing them out in the open, find an alleyway, or someplace quiet to do it in. This would also offer more roleplay opportunities for both parties, if you got kps on them, you just kill them, with minor or major perms, you would probably get more fights and interactions with that character if you chose to beat them up. It's certainly more interesting than /me stabs carotid, isn't it?

(Watch this thread get downvoted by every single gangrper in existence lol)

 

[Polar]

+1

 

[Yonio]

I do agree with this to some extent
There have been situations, specially in the plaza, where tons of people showed up with weapons and nobody did anything whatsoever (Im guessing it is because of the fear for these KPS), which honestly makes no sense

However, twisting it so that it is still fair for all parties is quite hard, so you (or anyone willing to) would need to make a system where kps is only given under specific circumstances

 

[Gunna!]

+1​

 

[suu]

+1^60000
I do agree that FearRPing weapons is completely valid since realistically you don't try and disarm a dude with a long katana looking at you, however the easiest way one can hand out KPs is by snitching, and while there are people well versed in GangRP who know how to hide with proper IC reason, there are many other people (mainly new players) who have/had no idea that snitching gives the other party KPs on their character. Gangrpers should learn how to properly RP and not just go /me stabs u wiht katana in cartoid. This is a perfect way to encourage roleplay and make it a bit more realistic.

 

[usercultist]

+1

 

[moonboops]

+1

 

[justsimba]

+1

Honestly, my opinion is similar to Yonio’s.
The current perm setup is pretty unrealistic, but if we are to change for it to be more fair for both parties, that in it self would be pretty difficult.

 

[HATOLA]

+1

 

[Kana]

+1
I've seen a lot of people hesitate to call the police because they don't want their character to get killed, it not only makes it harder for the police to have fun, it makes the players not be able to roleplay how they'd like to the full extent.​

 

[Ruin]

neutral on this one but, instead of calling the cops in front of their face try going far enough and call cops, after that you can action to delete your call logs or action to throw away your phone once your done with it if you do not want them finding evidence, I myself called cops on someone when they were killing a random individual, I just ran into a corner, crouched, called cops and deleted my call logs.

 

[Lizalopod]

neutral on this one but, instead of calling the cops in front of their face try going far enough and call cops, after that you can action to delete your call logs or action to throw away your phone once your done with it if you do not want them finding evidence, I myself called cops on someone when they were killing a random individual, I just ran into a corner, crouched, called cops and deleted my call logs.

While yes this works, it still discourages many from just doing it-

Plus, gangrpers will be gangrpers and sometimes some of em they try and BS their way regardless from my experience

 

[Toto]

+1

GangRPers will run around spawn in weapons for eternity until they are GIVEN further restrictions, a free market based upon players all sharing a joint moral of having realism does not work, like it would in servers like FantasyRP. I completely agree with what you said. Players need encouragement to roleplay better.

Also, GangRPers, on your end - ever thought of simply getting their characters arrested rather then going for their heads? I get it's a lot less "stabby stabby" but it worked wonders in 2018 and was a heavily used meta at a certain time back then.

 

[tong]

+1^∞
agree with all above

 

[Ruin]

fair enough

Plus, gangrpers will be gangrpers and sometimes some of em they try and BS their way regardless from my experience

 

[Beanfart]

+1/-1 I get that its kinda unrealistic but the gangrper would fear that the person who snitched might get a chance to tell the police more if left alive therefore causing the gangrper to kill the person before they can reveal more to the police.

 

[maraa]

+1

 

[florestia]

+1 x 10
I couldn't agree more, it is simply unrealistic to have someone be murdered for calling the KPD in a situation as minor as a fight. I can see in some circumstances where there may be a fearRP/KPS component for snitching like when I was in an ICLY situation where my chars apartment was stormed by 5 gang members and was forced to watch her sister get majored, there was no way she was going to call the KPD, but things like minor fights such as KOs shouldn't be resorted in immediately killing whoever snitched, I saw a comment somewhere above this that mentioned it could grant minor/major perms rather than KPS, which in my opinion would work a lot better and make things fair

 

[MrSharkyJR]

Some changes to that can be nice yes

+1

 

[will!]

+1

enough said. good idea!