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-kam

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What's your Minecraft Username?: kamcold
What's the title of your suggestion?: KPD Changes + Fixes

What's your suggestion?:
Recently, i've had the glory of working as a governor and doing a quota named Citizen Surveying. With this, alot of the individuals have came forth to me and reported issues regarding KPD that follow under the next categories

Call responses
Something that individuals have came to me alot about is that the KPD responding to calls is often a gambling experience. Alot of the time they either respond in minuites or not at all, meaning that it's rather unreliable.
My suggestion towards this is making it so that calls are logged into a system so that they can be looked back upon, similar to how when you open your phone and go onto messages you can go to an individual and see what they said. Meaning that you can see the IGN + PN and contact them again when another person reaches out to them.

Maranda rights
Something I, myself have realised is that KPD don't really read out miranda rights. This means alot of people are left either clueless or at a loss of rights. Yes, this can be fowarded and made into a sueing but we all know how less trials are happening at the moment. My suggestion to this is making it so when KPD logs arrest for quota, they have to put in a ss of them reading out Miranda to make things easier for everyone. And if they don't provide this ss, the quota doesn't count.


How will this benefit the server and community?:
It'll allow for a bit more security within the town and allow for individuals to feel more connected to KPD, as that is being lost at the moment.
 

ny00m

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I was under the impression that the current 110 call system logs calls on discord, even if an officer doesn't respond? Idk tho i dont work there

+1000 to the rights thing. I have been promoted from human rights violator to human rights activist and am appalled by how the Karakura police force seems to consider it only a Geneva suggestion rather than convention. I forget which role it was but apparently some government official's (ic) response to the question about reading a person's rights to them was that it's equally the civilian's responsibility to ask an officer to read their rights to them. When I heard this I laffed so hard i sprained my lung and was hospitalized for 12 weeks. Unacceptable.
 

Popo

Level 67
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Call responses
Something that individuals have came to me alot about is that the KPD responding to calls is often a gambling experience. Alot of the time they either respond in minuites or not at all, meaning that it's rather unreliable.
My suggestion towards this is making it so that calls are logged into a system so that they can be looked back upon, similar to how when you open your phone and go onto messages you can go to an individual and see what they said. Meaning that you can see the IGN + PN and contact them again when another person reaches out to them.
Emergency calls are already logged into a system that emergency workers can access.

Maranda rights
Something I, myself have realised is that KPD don't really read out miranda rights. This means alot of people are left either clueless or at a loss of rights. Yes, this can be fowarded and made into a sueing but we all know how less trials are happening at the moment. My suggestion to this is making it so when KPD logs arrest for quota, they have to put in a ss of them reading out Miranda to make things easier for everyone. And if they don't provide this ss, the quota doesn't count.
They don't really need to read your Miranda rights if you're guaranteed to be arrested. However, in the case of detainment for interrogation, they read you your rights which is mandatory according to Karakura's constitution.

“Article 14.
Every person has the right to remain silent upon being detained, questioned, or interrogated. All people have a right to hire an attorney under these circumstances. It is the responsibility of law enforcement to inform any person undergoing these procedures”
 

-kam

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Emergency calls are already logged into a system that emergency workers can access.


They don't really need to read your Miranda rights if you're guaranteed to be arrested. However, in the case of detainment for interrogation, they read you your rights which is mandatory according to Karakura's constitution.

“Article 14.
Every person has the right to remain silent upon being detained, questioned, or interrogated. All people have a right to hire an attorney under these circumstances. It is the responsibility of law enforcement to inform any person undergoing these procedures”
I just think that adding it so its a part of logging an arrest when reading miranda will make things more organized
 

Mo!

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KPD always read rights, and it is always in the cell if you are arrested. You do not get them read the moment you are arrested due to time pressure.

The calls are always responded to when an officer is able to do so, if you don't get a response I'd suggest going to the KPD itself and reporting there!
 

Iris.fi

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-1 emergency workers already do see all the calls bc they're logged within a channel and what others said
 

draculary

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-1 your rights are put up in the cells where they’ll be able to read them and are repeated again before doing an interrogation. We don’t do them as they’re being jailed because it’ll cause for an unneeded situation to happen, and sometimes the situation is on a time crunch like having to arrest a gang situation of 6+ people and also having to crowd control. The calls are logged in discord already, if no one is on and they see it then they’ll get on and make a broadcast for more officers. Officers have lives outside SRP too, sometimes they’re in RP, afk taking a break, or doing training.
 

Yonio

Level 330
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Something I, myself have realised is that KPD don't really read out miranda rights. This means alot of people are left either clueless or at a loss of rights. Yes, this can be fowarded and made into a sueing but we all know how less trials are happening at the moment. My suggestion to this is making it so when KPD logs arrest for quota, they have to put in a ss of them reading out Miranda to make things easier for everyone. And if they don't provide this ss, the quota doesn't count.
This isn't how arrest quotas work. We have a channel where we add all the activities carried out by KPD (arrests, files, documentation, inmate care, visitations, etc.). Might be a bit of a nit-pick, but Japan doesn't have Miranda rights. That's only an US thing, and if we're working towards making Karakura more japanese-like, we should probably stop referring to these concepts with western terminology.

As for the actual suggestion, each cell has a list with the inmate's rights as shown below. Officers are often tasked with arresting many people, so it's inevitable for this to eventually happen at some point. Unless your character is either illiterate or doesn't know Japanese by default, they shouldn't have an excuse not to know your rights.

 

Haneshii

Level 20
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Something that individuals have came to me alot about is that the KPD responding to calls is often a gambling experience. Alot of the time they either respond in minuites or not at all, meaning that it's rather unreliable.
all i really have to say about this is EM level restrictions. recently, i know kpd has been pretty on lockdown due to em level and they have to have a lot of people to actually respond to calls. when it's dead hours, it's hard for officers to do so due to not having many people online.
 

Ecocide

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um. . yeah all of the things mentioned in this suggestion are already a thing. Like Yonio said the rights are in every cell, Officers shouldn't have to waste their time reading rights to mass amounts of criminals when its posted in every cell right in their faces. Officers already have to do a shit ton for each arrest so please don't make the process longer when players already complain about us being slow.

Calls are already logged.
 

Miamorchito

Level 39
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Although I +1 for the Miranda rights, people who are getting arrested, whether they are clearly guilty or not, will expect some sort of information about their rights from KPD. Having a sign on the cells is completely ineffective due to the following reasons:
1. We are ignoring the chance of people who have impediments, like blindness. That makes the sign useless.
(As a lawyer, I have already dealt with blind people, and they, of course, are not able to read the rights because they cannot read. . .)
2. Most of the time, when I try to tackle this, I am shut down by comments like: "They have enough time to read it." Nevertheless, we also do not consider that the same officers distract the people inside the cells, making them unable to read said rights. . . Incidents like these happened, unfortunately, more than once, and they were reported to KPD.

I really do not see why this is so hard to implement. . . Copy and paste the right, and most of the issues will be solved. If the person is not informed about the rights of a KPD officer, which are protected by their constitutional rights (Article 14th), this could lead to potentially making the arrest illegal. Once again, it is one minor change that really relieves lawyers to explain why KPD didn't inform them about their rights and why the rights are on a sign.
 

ny00m

Level 29
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I really do not see why this is so hard to implement. . . Copy and paste the right, and most of the issues will be solved.
I'm in support of this, though I'm not sure if the ban on copy/pasting actions for KPD/criminals affects it.

I'm also baffled by the counterargument that jail cells have rights written in them, as if the rights don't matter before that? Imagine you unknowingly yap away the whole drive to the station only to then read your rights in jail and realise you could've legally kept your mouth shut.
 

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