mistoreya
Level 3
-1
so first of all i just wanna start out by saying everyone has valid points in this suggestion as it was a department sprung up without much room to debate against it; myself as I was allowed into the emergency department i’ve noticed quite a few things and changes; even though it has been a week.. there’s a clear separation / heat between us and the other two departments, weather out of anger or frustration, which i completely understand!! But, let me break down my feelings on this suggestion and the department as a whole !!
As so you don’t have to read everything, i put a name above each part to signify which I’m referring to ^-^
Point 1 | Darkxwalker
- As most others said this is a brand new department; barely finishing up first week of training! You haven’t exactly given it the chance TO change, bare in mind changes do not come overnight. Of course, I do not believe it is fair to split something up with as there was much time put into this department; and so far, it’s been working! We’ve been doing our duties, responding to calls, and doing our training.
On the patrol part, i completely understand why others would be upset by this change, but keep in mind patrol is to go around searching for injured people and checking on welll being. Not to stop and get fresh air, which i myself am guilty of! Sometimes a little break from the hospital is much needed, but in the scenario you ARE out on the patrol with one paramedic and say 2 people are having an emergency, the other in question might have no idea how to deal with these scenarios as they are not trained. In hindsight, they wouldn’t hold much use in that situation. Only trained people who KNOW what to do in every scenario should be going out. It’s as simple as that. along with you wouldn’t want a psychiatrist doing your surgery who’s never held a scalpel or a doctor handling your panic attack who’s only line is to “calm down.” Patrol shouldn’t be a form of entertainment. Yes; fun things do happen on them! But let’s not drag the point away nontheless and negate what patrols are really for.
Of course it will be something people strive for; and of course i say, work for it. The department is supposed to be those who higher ups (so far) believed could HANDLE working all 3 jobs, were also test dummies, to see how well this could work. bare in mind were not going around doing all these jobs at once as if we’re robots, no. it’s a “just in case” scenario, never for all the SIX days we’ve had this role tried to take away from another hospital worker, we are backup. if no one else can handle what is going on, WE pick up the slack where it lays. It’s a department people should want to get into, because it’s an honor to be chosen for it.. why make it seem as if it’s impossible and stuff.. it’s the same as trying to get to be a higher up, they get more duties, they get new things.. it’s hard to get into, not everyone can be fit for it, that’s the point.
Our aim is not to take away from the other two departments. The complete opposite, we do our best to bring patients inside the hospital so they can preform their duties. Maybe since you’ve been gone you haven’t noticed, there has been a plethora of times where calls come in where we sat helplessly due to the fact there was no paramedics online. The newest wave is compiled of people who are both active and have diferente time zones; therefore can AVOID having so many situations where one department is online when another is needed. Not everything happens at the hospital, sometimes people are injured that are far away, sometimes people have panic attacks far away, WE deal with that. I always ask if another needs quota before I do anything, we’re not actively prying their jobs away.. We do the same things they do, but we don’t NEED to; we’re not quota hungry..
Point 2 | Iris
I understand what you’re saying!! But, again keep in mind that we are not trying to take anyone’s duties from them, as a paramedic we don’t STRIVE to do all 3 jobs and steal quota from others. Infact, this suggestion has nothing to do with gaining quota but i understand it falls into ties with it. Anything relating to giving psychiatrists more things to do for quota should be taken to OUR suggestions..
anyway, as i’ve noticed being quite active on EMS there’s been many and many and many of times where i’ve been online with only psychiatrist who can do nothing against a broken leg or anything of the sort. The emergency department is to eliminate that, not to steal. if there’s no doctor online but a paramedic who was once a psych before now has the ability to take that patient in and treat them if no doctor is available!! Time zones are of course a huge issue with this, but with this new change you now have a few more people with more diverse time zones under your belt, less referrals to be denied.
Point 3 | Noah
The first wave was handpicked for a reason, you can’t have a new department work with people who believe they’re fit for the role but are not. Which is WHY people were chosen by those who oversee everything. Of course if you knew this change was coming you’d want in, that doesn’t make you any more fit for it, it’s your actions that get you further. It’s not all about being active though that is a big plus! I as well don’t know the criteria it was to get into the faction, but i don’t believe it’s just your recent ones that mater.
You say EMS needs more communication, then go start that communication! You take leadership roles, go go go!! Make suggestions, speak to your co workers, don’t let yourself fall into a deeper pit of un-motivation because you keep pushing back making a change. All your points are understandable.. go do something about it !! You want psychs to get vet certificate back, go suggest it.. No one is holding you back from stating your feelings and at least ATTEMPTING to do something regarding it; staying quiet won’t do anything. As I was a psychiatrist before i know firsthand how demotivating and tiring it can be, when referrals were brought it was like a weight was lifted! Those things can happen again; but higher ups cannot read your mind, you need to communicate as you said. You have to think, make stuff, make it make sense for a psychiatrist to have / do.
again, i understand how demotivating it can be, but i don’t think voiding the entire department will solve anything . Think about it! Before the change, we were on a bit of a decline recardless. Don’t be upset with the change, work around it and find ways to better things for you. Focusing on us as a department won’t help the other two! Try asking is Psychiatrist can preform vet duties, if doctors can be backup paramedics, there’s so many things that could be made in order to satisfy the others!
so first of all i just wanna start out by saying everyone has valid points in this suggestion as it was a department sprung up without much room to debate against it; myself as I was allowed into the emergency department i’ve noticed quite a few things and changes; even though it has been a week.. there’s a clear separation / heat between us and the other two departments, weather out of anger or frustration, which i completely understand!! But, let me break down my feelings on this suggestion and the department as a whole !!
As so you don’t have to read everything, i put a name above each part to signify which I’m referring to ^-^
Point 1 | Darkxwalker
- As most others said this is a brand new department; barely finishing up first week of training! You haven’t exactly given it the chance TO change, bare in mind changes do not come overnight. Of course, I do not believe it is fair to split something up with as there was much time put into this department; and so far, it’s been working! We’ve been doing our duties, responding to calls, and doing our training.
On the patrol part, i completely understand why others would be upset by this change, but keep in mind patrol is to go around searching for injured people and checking on welll being. Not to stop and get fresh air, which i myself am guilty of! Sometimes a little break from the hospital is much needed, but in the scenario you ARE out on the patrol with one paramedic and say 2 people are having an emergency, the other in question might have no idea how to deal with these scenarios as they are not trained. In hindsight, they wouldn’t hold much use in that situation. Only trained people who KNOW what to do in every scenario should be going out. It’s as simple as that. along with you wouldn’t want a psychiatrist doing your surgery who’s never held a scalpel or a doctor handling your panic attack who’s only line is to “calm down.” Patrol shouldn’t be a form of entertainment. Yes; fun things do happen on them! But let’s not drag the point away nontheless and negate what patrols are really for.
Of course it will be something people strive for; and of course i say, work for it. The department is supposed to be those who higher ups (so far) believed could HANDLE working all 3 jobs, were also test dummies, to see how well this could work. bare in mind were not going around doing all these jobs at once as if we’re robots, no. it’s a “just in case” scenario, never for all the SIX days we’ve had this role tried to take away from another hospital worker, we are backup. if no one else can handle what is going on, WE pick up the slack where it lays. It’s a department people should want to get into, because it’s an honor to be chosen for it.. why make it seem as if it’s impossible and stuff.. it’s the same as trying to get to be a higher up, they get more duties, they get new things.. it’s hard to get into, not everyone can be fit for it, that’s the point.
Our aim is not to take away from the other two departments. The complete opposite, we do our best to bring patients inside the hospital so they can preform their duties. Maybe since you’ve been gone you haven’t noticed, there has been a plethora of times where calls come in where we sat helplessly due to the fact there was no paramedics online. The newest wave is compiled of people who are both active and have diferente time zones; therefore can AVOID having so many situations where one department is online when another is needed. Not everything happens at the hospital, sometimes people are injured that are far away, sometimes people have panic attacks far away, WE deal with that. I always ask if another needs quota before I do anything, we’re not actively prying their jobs away.. We do the same things they do, but we don’t NEED to; we’re not quota hungry..
Point 2 | Iris
I understand what you’re saying!! But, again keep in mind that we are not trying to take anyone’s duties from them, as a paramedic we don’t STRIVE to do all 3 jobs and steal quota from others. Infact, this suggestion has nothing to do with gaining quota but i understand it falls into ties with it. Anything relating to giving psychiatrists more things to do for quota should be taken to OUR suggestions..
anyway, as i’ve noticed being quite active on EMS there’s been many and many and many of times where i’ve been online with only psychiatrist who can do nothing against a broken leg or anything of the sort. The emergency department is to eliminate that, not to steal. if there’s no doctor online but a paramedic who was once a psych before now has the ability to take that patient in and treat them if no doctor is available!! Time zones are of course a huge issue with this, but with this new change you now have a few more people with more diverse time zones under your belt, less referrals to be denied.
Point 3 | Noah
The first wave was handpicked for a reason, you can’t have a new department work with people who believe they’re fit for the role but are not. Which is WHY people were chosen by those who oversee everything. Of course if you knew this change was coming you’d want in, that doesn’t make you any more fit for it, it’s your actions that get you further. It’s not all about being active though that is a big plus! I as well don’t know the criteria it was to get into the faction, but i don’t believe it’s just your recent ones that mater.
You say EMS needs more communication, then go start that communication! You take leadership roles, go go go!! Make suggestions, speak to your co workers, don’t let yourself fall into a deeper pit of un-motivation because you keep pushing back making a change. All your points are understandable.. go do something about it !! You want psychs to get vet certificate back, go suggest it.. No one is holding you back from stating your feelings and at least ATTEMPTING to do something regarding it; staying quiet won’t do anything. As I was a psychiatrist before i know firsthand how demotivating and tiring it can be, when referrals were brought it was like a weight was lifted! Those things can happen again; but higher ups cannot read your mind, you need to communicate as you said. You have to think, make stuff, make it make sense for a psychiatrist to have / do.
again, i understand how demotivating it can be, but i don’t think voiding the entire department will solve anything . Think about it! Before the change, we were on a bit of a decline recardless. Don’t be upset with the change, work around it and find ways to better things for you. Focusing on us as a department won’t help the other two! Try asking is Psychiatrist can preform vet duties, if doctors can be backup paramedics, there’s so many things that could be made in order to satisfy the others!
