Make the 50 Credit to graduate less, or introduce a different way to graduate

[Miamorchito]

I have a few things to say here.

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As a professor I feel a tad entitled to respond to this. Teacher and professor IS the hardest faction; no matter what you argue, we have dealt with EVERY single player that has logged on in all of the server's history. It IS a faction that is VERY essential. Do keep that in mind before you start. So to put it lightly, having any sort of 'homework requirement' would be a one-sided victory; teaching is supposed to be fun! And trust me, we didn't sign up to be the co-developers of the homework simulator. This would not only demotivate the professor and teacher faction SEVERELY, but if you think about this:Minimum quota = 10, that is 120 a year. Now for myself that is no issue, as I DO REALLY love being in the faction and like teaching, BUT there's one thing I and around, I'd like to say, 75% of faculty HATE: making homework. Now these homeworks can vary in how long someone may take writing them; if you PLAN your lessons (which, if I am being honest, not many people do; I don't plan either, and my classes are loved), it is easy. BUT if you don't, it can restrict you severely with how you host! And also… Homework has to be checked by SLT... So that's 120 homeworks; at least ONE SLT member has to mark them. And take into consideration that if you host MORE, it WILL add up, and to add onto this, there are AT LEAST 20 MORE FACTION members. So yeah.

Now besides that, it would just demotivate ALL OF THE FACULTY... It's also WAY too much of an ask for faculty who love teaching but have time restraints. Overall this little idea wouldn't work.

Have a good day!!!

You know, sometimes I really hate you and want to throw you out of the window, and sometimes I feel like you read my mind, and I love working with you. This is an example of the latter. You resumed it pretty well, at least for me, by the time I've been in the faculty as a Professor. Teachers/Professors have a lot to deal with: Roleplay, Detentions, New ideas for classes, and homework. Homework is something that we SHOULD do already, even if it doesn't affect quota. The problem with this lies with people who teach subjects that require a lot of research in the middle. What Ben said here is pretty much what I feel about this system. I don't like it because I've already drained myself gathering material for three students (two of whom are AFK), had no interaction whatsoever, and then see that they gave me a decent answer, meaning they just googled the answers. It feels insulting to my time and to my work, and of course, we don't want to feel that way.

However, on the other hand, I do want to give everyone the chance to graduate, or at least for those who are truly interacting with faculty.

Could they perhaps make it automatic then? Like it automatically checks the answers, at least checks automatically for multiple choice questions, then they would have less questions to check. I am not sure about how much work tutors have but they should also be able help with checking homework if they do not already have a lot of work.

I don't really think that checking the answers is a big deal for professors/teachers, cause it is pretty straightforward; the issue comes when you have to create the homework. SLT has to check that the homework meets the criteria to be delivered to students, and from there on it's up to the teacher/professor to do the rest, from creation, submission, delivery in class, and grading.

You receive stickers. After receiving a certain amount of stickers, you can transfer them into credit to graduate. Not a low amount as it's relatively easy to get stickers from faculty staff. If this isn't allowed or going to be accepted, it can be nerfed and introduced with a new way!

+1 to this part.

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As faculty, we should prioritize those who are actively participating in the classroom, or at the very least, trying to learn. The homework system is a good way to tackle it, but it is draining for some professors, and doesn't really reward the active student versus the inactive one, since anyone can do the homework after school, so what gives?

Incentives like the one I +1 could encourage people to interact with the class (a goal we are always striving for), reduce the dependency on homework for students and faculty, and ultimately create a positive and healthy alternative for everyone. I can see how this could even increase the minimum requirement, but I would argue that having more alternatives is better than having none. There are students out there who, unfortunately, interact a lot in classes, but the professor didn't handle their questions, which is insulting to the students, too. Why not give them the credit for participating if you are not going to handle their homework?

Anyways. Too much yappery, but I felt like this needed to be out here. I absolutely love and respect everyone in the faculty (a very lovely community), and I want the best for the students, too, which is why I'm writing this. <3

 

[printsess300]

SLT has to check that the homework meets the criteria to be delivered to students, and from there on it's up to the teacher/professor to do the rest, from creation, submission, delivery in class, and grading.

Couldn't they then make the check if the homework meets criteria automatic or change it so that more homework can be given?

 

[Miamorchito]

Couldn't they then make the check if the homework meets criteria automatic or change it so that more homework can be given?

I mean, anything is possible nowadays when it comes to AI, so yeah, it is pretty much possible to create an automatic system to check homework. However, the problem you are trying to tackle is not how fast the homework is being reviewed (which is very fast as of now). What you would most likely need to do is make professors do more homework, which is also doable, but it will drain a lot of us. In that sense, we (teachers/professors) cannot simply create automatic homework, as it needs to be related to the material covered in class.

 

[printsess300]

I mean, anything is possible nowadays when it comes to AI, so yeah, it is pretty much possible to create an automatic system to check homework. However, the problem you are trying to tackle is not how fast the homework is being reviewed (which is very fast as of now). What you would most likely need to do is make professors do more homework, which is also doable, but it will drain a lot of us. In that sense, we (teachers/professors) cannot simply create automatic homework, as it needs to be related to the material covered in class.

I meant like making the homework approval automatic or change it in a way so more homework gets approved. Because as far as I know SLT needs to approve the homework before it can be given out to students.

 

[Miamorchito]

I meant like making the homework approval automatic or change it in a way so more homework gets approved. Because as far as I know SLT needs to approve the homework before it can be given out to students.

Yes, it is possible that they could implement a system that allows homework to be approved faster, but making reviews faster doesn't necessarily mean there will be more homework. As I mentioned earlier, that is the responsibility of the teacher/professor. Creating a system that automatically reviews homework doesn't address the issue the OP is trying to tackle here.

 

[GloomyRP]

I am going to agree with Ben, Randen, Celexa and Liz here and few others aswell. (If I didn't mention you, I am sorry)

Remember this is my opinion. You don't need like it.

I am neutral on this +1/-1

I love the suggestion and the idea behind it. But everyone should also be mindful about faculty has a personal life behind the screens and some are new teachers. If you want homework to be marked give the teacher or the professor a little nudge via discord or in ooc that they have homework to grade because they might've forgot, but please do this WITHOUT shaming them that they forgot. Or If you want homework you can just ask the professor/teacher icly to give.

For having alternatives for getting credits like giving stickers for reserving credits suggestion WHICH I agree is a decent suggestion. Like with every 10 or 15 stickers you can go give it in for a 1 credit or y'all can just wait for exams like the rest of us or just do the 50 credits.

This is for some of the comments.
Giving homework shouldn't be mandatory, not everyone loves making homework it's just an alternative for those players who wants to go to college faster if they don't want to wait for the exams.

I do agree with giving other alternatives to get credits but shouldn't be a daily thing because if it's a daily thing if you get 3 tasks per day by the end of the week it's 3 x 7 = 21 credits and before you know it there is less highschool students and more college students than teachers also have nobody to teach. I get it people want to go to college and not stay as a highschooler because "college" is much cooler. No offence. Love College

If wanting to make homework mandatory, it's a no go, if you guys insist then go tell a new teachers or new professors that they need to make 120+ homeworks on their first week/month of teaching and it will make it not as fun anymore if you make it mandatory, so you kinda make them leave faster than you say education, so good luck in that.

Another thing is making it mandatory will only cause more burn out in the teacher/professor faction, so it shouldn't be mandatory thing.

Making it automatically marks the answers seems a tad difficult. Because it's requires new commands to learn and new scripts in the system to write so keep that in mind and shouldn't be first thing in the mind to think about.

Making credits a bit lower could be seen in the near or far future. I believe I seen a suggestion on that before, I can be wrong. As an teacher I am not as active right now like I want to be because I have real life responsibilities aswell so keep in mind. Also remember that faculty has real life responsibilities before SRP comes into the picture and sometimes we forget we have homework to grade. A reminder is fine and welcome but calling them out like they did something bad isn't fair.

LOVE THE SUGGESTION VINRUU.

Cheers

 

[CakeRPiscool]

-1

 

[KimiNoUso]

Reviewed
Thank you for your suggestion!

- We'll review this around the same time we host our next exams. Remember that the Homework system is designed as a validation of your participation in class, as well as your attendance; they should be very easy, and a reminder of this has been given to Teachers & Professors. Whilst if you're desperate to get into College you may have to "grind" to get in, it's design is there to allow allow players who are passively attending classes to earn points over months of play time to eventually progress naturally through roleplay without having to attend events.​

- We also recently added self-graduation for College B -> College M. Further graduation requires attending an event, e.g. M -> PHD | Adult.​