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sonicriders

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What's your Minecraft Username?: sonicriders
What's the title of your suggestion?: Update Logs and Improved Service

What's your suggestion?:
Request for the implementation of updated logs and a regular set date and time to resolve server issues.

I, respectfully, believe that the workflow for this server needs more polish and attention. I have reason to believe it is unprofessional, as when I compare this server’s workflow to other games I have played in the past, this server appears severely negligent in handling the needs of players. As a rough example, the game Identity V holds ‘maintenance’ every Wednesday, which locks some parts of gameplay, or even closes the servers entirely to smoothly implement new updates or glitches. Additionally, if something has caused a mass of players to speak out in outrage, they will typically revert or change the mistake before granting players a small amount of in-game currency as compensation.

From what I have seen, this is the norm within the gaming industry, and SHOULD be expected of games that gain some form of profit from their playerbase, or rather, customers… Which begs the question: Shouldn’t SRP match up to this?

This ongoing negligence is unprofessional, as I feel that the SRP community is not being rightfully served. I understand that you all have personal lives, but if you are incapable of regularly upholding your duties as a staff member, whether you are burnt out, busy with your personal life, etc., then there shouldn’t be any shame in handing your duties off to someone with stronger motivation to take care of the server and the general playerbase’s wellbeing. Please don’t make selfish excuses for your own sake and comfort; have fair reasoning, or at least, it seems reasonable to me as a consumer. Some examples of assumable negligence are as follows:

Players are losing their properties and having them stolen away– not only that, but once their property has been taken from them unrightfully, even if they had been active recently, the staff permits their Private chests containing countless items to be deleted with no effort made to return said items to the former owner, with no concern for how an active player would feel. I am a victim of this, as well as other players that had complaints or concerns for the loss of their property and belongings. As an example of how these things can be resolved, if you lose access to your account in a numerous mobile games, you may have it returned through a Q&A to prove your identity and what you have lost! Shouldn’t something similar be offered on this server? What belongs to the players shouldn’t be able to disappear so easily; it’s wasteful! I also believe this issue is still ongoing after 2 weeks have already passed. This is an urgent matter, everyone is losing an ALARMING amount of yen from paying rent that only works until the server restarts, as well as losing expensive items within that property! Many, many players will lose a lot of progress and memories if this isn't resolved quickly. There's a time limit!!

As for the Mailbox/Mailman issue, similar to the current problem with Housing, it has not been resolved in quite some time. It’s reasonable to take time to fix a glitch, but there seems to be no urgency in resolving it. I understand you want time to play, but this severe procrastination and lack of motivation for fixing things is disrespectful to the players it will affect, in my opinion… people Boycott for things like this, you know? Additionally, even if it doesn’t affect you, a staff member, you should at least have some compassion for the regular players it affects. If you don’t feel up for using your powers for our sake, then you have no reason to keep it all to yourself. Find a replacement so you don’t have to deal with this burden of a responsibility!

Finally, the issues of custom items. I have recently taken notice of customs that have been reshaded; particularly, how distraught yozb was to finding that the Moriel Maeng statue was redone without his permission, nor have they reached out to him– nor Henki-Do, who he had donated his custom to for easier access to other players– due to it being “public”... which I believe indicates that it belongs to staff, the SERVICE PROVIDERS, rather than the customer? That is truly one of the most mean-spirited reasons of all! For request work regarding art and media, Cambridge Dictionary describes a ‘commission’ as “A formal request and payment to a professional—such as an artist, writer, or musician—to create a specific piece of work.” One of your customers– who had spent an abundant amount of money for your service, nonetheless– was perfectly happy with how his item had come out in the past, and you believe you have the right to change that very same item to what YOU see as fit with no attempt of initial communication? You’re doing no one but yourselves a favor by changing these customs to appear what you deem is correct, rather than YOUR customer, who is now unhappy with your service!

How will this benefit the server and community?:
I understand that you deserve your own time to play rather than solely focusing on staff work, and that is fine. Play as much as you like! However, there is a time and a place where you should, as any worker providing SERVICE to a community, while simultaneously catering to at least the bare minimum of players’ basic needs, such as them not having to fear for losing their own property that they may or may not have valuable memories of. My friend stayed up extremely, EXTREMELY late to watch over HER HOUSE that SHE OWNS to ensure she doesn’t unfairly lose it, because that’s all she CAN do! She should be able to rely on the staff to ensure her belongings are safe. Please fix this, it’s your duty to care for the NEEDS and WANTS of this mass of a player base rather than yourselves!



I apologize for my poor writing, as well as for any hostility that you may have came across recently, including my own tone in this post. I have no ill intent, and truly believe that we, as players, are being taken for granted; moreover, this is not only for my own gain, but also for my friends who have been visibly upset, or have directly stated that they plan to quit SRP! As for myself, I want to keep playing with them without anyone quitting, but the current state of everything makes that seem hopeless! Please don’t dismiss this or make any excuses unless it's something truly out of your control! I believe that nobody expects miracles to fix everything all at once, but we want transparency and more priority towards improving any issues during gameplay as the very first step!

Good NIGHT!
 
That should go without saying.

Workarounds and better logging/monitoring of what players own should have been implemented a long time ago.
Databases have existed for a really long time, it's about time they get used.

Those issues are nothing new. There need to be better backups as well.

+1
 
literally the bare minimum.
i encourage players to stop staying silent for staff incompetence

at least fight for transparency from staff because their communication department is abysmal
the lack of respect for the community has existed for as long as i remember

keep in mind, not a single public announcement was even made in the SchoolRP server to inform people of this major problem.

+1
 
+1 it seems we get shut down by some of the staff when we try to talk about the problems of the server, theres a very good example of that in the servers chat, it seems to be a very common thing.. i and many others think that should change, and issues with the server should be fixed to benifit everyone.. starting with the glitches that have been around for a while now causing people to lose houses and items just like myself, i lost a full chest of items and some were even event items that i know i won't ever be getting back
 
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+1, absolutely goated suggestion

I agree with everything said in the suggestion, but sadly, from what we have seen in the past, the suggestion is truly just going to be ignored or banished to the shadow realm. There have been so many suggestions that have been brutally ignored or just avoided by staff, and knowing that, I imagine the same thing is going to happen here. I have a few friends who lost all of their stuff- millions worth of items- due to the apartment glitch, and they didn't get them back or have been told they can't get them back.

Shortly said i doubt anything is going to be done about it.
 
+1!

This is exactly how I would have worded it, great job sonicriders! I agree with everything stated, problems need to be fixed and soooon!
 
+1 Things do need to be fixed >_< people are losing so much yen & many meaningful items thru the apartment glitch in particular
 
+1
I'm not gonna say anything because there are some reasons so I'll stay silent but I agree and we should be treated better.
 
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Hello! We can understand your frustration on some of these things so I wanted to shed some transparancy on some of these situations.

Players are losing their properties and having them stolen away– not only that, but once their property has been taken from them unrightfully, even if they had been active recently, the staff permits their Private chests containing countless items to be deleted with no effort made to return said items to the former owner, with no concern for how an active player would feel. I am a victim of this, as well as other players that had complaints or concerns for the loss of their property and belongings. As an example of how these things can be resolved, if you lose access to your account in a numerous mobile games, you may have it returned through a Q&A to prove your identity and what you have lost! Shouldn’t something similar be offered on this server? What belongs to the players shouldn’t be able to disappear so easily; it’s wasteful! I also believe this issue is still ongoing after 2 weeks have already passed. This is an urgent matter, everyone is losing an ALARMING amount of yen from paying rent that only works until the server restarts, as well as losing expensive items within that property! Many, many players will lose a lot of progress and memories if this isn't resolved quickly. There's a time limit!!
Players that have houses lost due to the plugin are able to contact staff or create tickets to get their properties returned to them, any items lost can be gotten back through item support tickets with evidence. Unfortunately, we don't have any property revert commands so do require proof on what you have had to get them given back. We have developers actively working on resolving the issue, alongside other staff members bug testing these fixes to ensure they're working appropriately. We as staff members are unable to do anything about it without the knowledge of developing and bug fixing, however everyone on the team has been working hard at bringing up members of the community that have lost their houses to the Senior Administration team for houses to be given back. Again, this is a bug that is being constantly spoken about and brought up to have fixed.

As for the Mailbox/Mailman issue, similar to the current problem with Housing, it has not been resolved in quite some time. It’s reasonable to take time to fix a glitch, but there seems to be no urgency in resolving it. I understand you want time to play, but this severe procrastination and lack of motivation for fixing things is disrespectful to the players it will affect, in my opinion… people Boycott for things like this, you know? Additionally, even if it doesn’t affect you, a staff member, you should at least have some compassion for the regular players it affects. If you don’t feel up for using your powers for our sake, then you have no reason to keep it all to yourself. Find a replacement so you don’t have to deal with this burden of a responsibility!
Due to the limited size development team we have on SchoolRP right now, bugs like this can take a little longer to fix than expected, especially due to other bugs surrounding that, which are being worked on. There isn't actually anything we can do as staff members right now until this one is fixed as we do not have the commands to get items out of mailboxes, however be assured that this is being worked on, there are just quite a few bugs such as the housing issues that are being worked on.

I wanted to write this comment to assure you that these are issues we are bringing up and actively looking into as a staff team, but there is only so much we can do for bugs without coding knowledge. If you notice anything not working properly or may have some information you think would be useful to help resolve these issues, please consider making a bug report to alert the development team about this. I would like to ask that the community is a little more patient and respectful of those that are simply doing the best they can in their position, many staff members are actively looking out for players going through these issues and they are being brought up for fixes regularly, the development team as with many of the other community teams are encumbered with other duties as well as other issues like this
 
Hey guys - I'm commenting as well from Frenzy's comment to give some insight as well!

I understand some of the frustration that is going around, including the bug. There was a fix implemented a few days for this bug, but it does appear that it's not the full fix we were hoping for. Sadly when it comes to these types of bugs, we have to attempt to replicate them in order to figure the issue out properly - and seeing as this bug is unable to be replicated quick enough, people are losing their homes and money. However, luckily we do have a team who is trying to save everyone's stuff and return their properties back to them, but we cannot do this if you do not contact us and inform us this has happened to you; but there is way to try and prevent this bug from happening but you are to do this at your own risk;

- Do not up the rent on your apartment, keep it at once a month for now, why?
This will help when the apartment goes down to 2-5 days, you will then disown it and re-purchase it

Our Developers are looking into other sectors of what could be causing this issue, I promise you we are not letting this go unseen and It will be fixed as soon as the replication has been found. I know this is really upsetting, and I know all of your hard work to getting apartments and all the stuff inside disappearing is not nice. PLEASE and I cannot stress this enough, contact me on Discord if you have lost your apartment or things, I will try my hardest to return them to you. I am only a Moderator so I can only do so much, but I can store your stuff into my apartment until the apartment has been returned back to you.

-A another thing, I recommend not buying apartments that are in a popular district, this will also prevent you from losing out on money if it's forcefully disowned to be returned to the rightful owner. This way, people are not losing out on Money too quickly.


Sorry for my yap guys, that's my comment on the apartment bug ^_^


In regards of the Mailman, we've had issues with that plugin for awhile, it's always on and off - which I can also assure you it's being worked on. I do not know WHEN it will be fixed. What we can recommend for now, is just do not buy anything from Auction, if you do; it's at your own risk.

Sorry for the whole long message, I hope this somewhat gives you a little reassurance from both mine and Frenzys comments into it
 
Being a Staff member is also voluntary and these are people of the community who are trying their best to apply their own help to make the server thrive, While the bug is incredibly unfortunate, Staff members are trying their hardest to not only solve discussions and deescalate heated situations involving this issue alongside the numerous others, whilst dealing with botting, bypassers and a whole other list of things, I understand it's stressful and heck I myself nearly fell victim to the house bug, Staff are clearly trying to make people aware of the ways you can save yourself from losing items but to state here, just because they are a staff member does not mean they are Developers or coders of any sort, it is not a requirement for being on the staff team.

Staff are doing the best of each of their own abilities as of right now to sort out what has been transpiring and conversing with other community team members, players and developers to help figure out a bug while also dealing with what may be happening in their own respective factions they may lead, Please remember they are not only other players of the server but also humans that need breaks of their own and have been sacrificing their own mental health to remedy our issues to help us enjoy the server, they are berated enough for things that are out of their ability.

This message is just a reference to what I've heard and seen about the community recently, I am in no way trying to seem like I'm accusing the thread starter of doing any sort of these things.

And I would finally like to mention that there is several different levels of being a staff member which change what abilities you have access to so if a helper or moderator is online they may not have the actual capabilities with-in their role to figure out your issue and have to hand it off to somebody above them.
 
Hello! We can understand your frustration on some of these things so I wanted to shed some transparancy on some of these situations.
HELLO FRENZY
Players that have houses lost due to the plugin are able to contact staff or create tickets to get their properties returned to them, any items lost can be gotten back through item support tickets with evidence. Unfortunately, we don't have any property revert commands so do require proof on what you have had to get them given back. We have developers actively working on resolving the issue, alongside other staff members bug testing these fixes to ensure they're working appropriately. We as staff members are unable to do anything about it without the knowledge of developing and bug fixing, however everyone on the team has been working hard at bringing up members of the community that have lost their houses to the Senior Administration team for houses to be given back. Again, this is a bug that is being constantly spoken about and brought up to have fixed.
YES... BUT I and anyone else I have spoken to, FRIEND OR FOE, have said that their homes have not returned to them yet... I believe it should be prioritized, because if the guys that stole our houses RENEW IT, and we hypothetically have our homes returned to us, then those guys will end up wasting yen on rent, TOO, just like WE DID! I also have not heard a PEEP about the housing issue until everyone started getting loud about it in the HELP CHANNEL... I don't feel reassured at ALL!! No UPDATES!! As far as I know, the updates regarding the housing situation have solely came from players saying so themselves. That's what I have heard, and I share this sentiment, as well.
Due to the limited size development team we have on SchoolRP right now, bugs like this can take a little longer to fix than expected, especially due to other bugs surrounding that, which are being worked on. There isn't actually anything we can do as staff members right now until this one is fixed as we do not have the commands to get items out of mailboxes, however be assured that this is being worked on, there are just quite a few bugs such as the housing issues that are being worked on.
The short number of devs is TRUE... so of course, these things should take time! BUT I was moreso concerned due to a LACK of STATEMENTS regarding how things are being FIXED... or if they are at ALL... hence why I suggested that there should be a regular Update log or something to bring everyone at ease, aswell as PROVE that something is being done in the first place!! The recent hostility is from a lack of trust in the Staff, not baseless rebellion or anything like that.
I wanted to write this comment to assure you that these are issues we are bringing up and actively looking into as a staff team, but there is only so much we can do for bugs without coding knowledge. If you notice anything not working properly or may have some information you think would be useful to help resolve these issues, please consider making a bug report to alert the development team about this. I would like to ask that the community is a little more patient and respectful of those that are simply doing the best they can in their position, many staff members are actively looking out for players going through these issues and they are being brought up for fixes regularly, the development team as with many of the other community teams are encumbered with other duties as well as other issues like this
Again, I am sorry for any hostility that has been going on; I think that if we expect professionalism, we should be professional, TOO! I also feel that if the main issue is due to a lack of staff... then more should be sought out! That way, everyone won't be so SWAMPED... I am also aware that staff are not the ones coding, I just thought that Devs counted as Staff, sorry! And as for Staff having many, many other duties, I think I UNDERSTAND to a CERTAIN DEGREE, because every staff member I can think of off of the top of my head has other jobs to do, too!! Like YOU, FRENZY... you look at LANGUAGE APPLICATIONS, TEACHER APPLICATIONS, and are always in the HELP CHANNEL to HELP!! And LOBSTERDOG is the Lead for PROFESSORS, 6PANCAKE is the HOSPITAL LEAD... ETC! You have to prioritise those things, too, for SURE! BUT... I think this would only be reasonable if you had a larger staff team to back you guys up, so you can focus on your separate duties at critical moments. Most likely, you can't just do this many things all at once– and not only do you have numerous duties within SRP, but you have your own duties outside of SRP, as well. Shouldn't these responsibilities be split amongst new people so that there's less pressure on how many things you have to handle? QUALITY over QUANTITY... except QUANTITY is BETTER in this case!! There should be MORE coordination and frequency in clearing up anything that may cause players feelings of uneasiness. I think so, anyhow.
 
Sorry for my yap guys, that's my comment on the apartment bug ^_^
HELLO MO, and thank you for offering to make things easier for those who will potentially lose their properties! HOWEVER... there should be a bigger announcement to ensure everyone with a property would likely be aware of this! Additionally, when a few others and I have already lost our properties, we were told by another Staff member to contact them, but there has not been any updates in the past few days! I understand things take time, but again, no matter how short it is, we need something to prove and ensure it is actively being RESOLVED, as, AGAIN-AGAIN, there is a TIME LIMIT! People who found our properties unowned due to the glitch are currently holding our properties hostage, but I don't want them to have to pay even more rent on their property, only to lose it, IF, hypothetically, the properties are returned to their rightful owners.
In regards of the Mailman, we've had issues with that plugin for awhile, it's always on and off - which I can also assure you it's being worked on. I do not know WHEN it will be fixed. What we can recommend for now, is just do not buy anything from Auction, if you do; it's at your own risk.
There should be an announcement for that, TOO! I feel like most people would not be aware until it's already too late! Not everyone is going to read this, I feel as if they're more likely to see it in an announcement through the Official Discord server. Or with the inclusion of an UPDATE LOG! That way, ost people CANNOT miss it.
Sorry for the whole long message, I hope this somewhat gives you a little reassurance from both mine and Frenzys comments into it
It's OK! BUT! I don't know if I feel assured YET! According to what other people have said, TOO, we need an improvement, no matter how small! One that can PROVE that there are active attempts at fixing these things that are upsetting everyone. That is ALL...
 
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Staff are doing the best of each of their own abilities as of right now to sort out what has been transpiring and conversing with other community team members, players and developers to help figure out a bug while also dealing with what may be happening in their own respective factions they may lead, Please remember they are not only other players of the server but also humans that need breaks of their own and have been sacrificing their own mental health to remedy our issues to help us enjoy the server, they are berated enough for things that are out of their ability.
As I had stated, I am aware that they cannot solely dedicate their lives to their SRP duties! HOWEVER, all we need is some professionalism– which, in my opinion, would be actively updating and being able to PROVE that they are taking a reasonable amount of time to ATTEMPT to fix these issues. As for being berated, although SOME players have truthfully been responding somewhat harshly, I believe that response isn't coming from selfishness, but rather, distrust of the Staff due to past experiences. After all, I have been only been playing on this server for a year, so there could be other situations that I am unaware of. And as for dealing with their own faction's issues, I have written in my reply to frenzy that those duties should be seperated to other people to allow more time on Staff's hands, aswell as allow those opportunities to ordinary players that have too MUCH time on their hands who would feel motivated to carry out the duties of factions. That way, the burden would be lessened on Staff.
And I would finally like to mention that there is several different levels of being a staff member which change what abilities you have access to so if a helper or moderator is online they may not have the actual capabilities with-in their role to figure out your issue and have to hand it off to somebody above them.
Truthfully, I feel as if some decisions the higher ranked staff have done are unnecessary, such as changing the appearances of customs without the buyer's permission. There is no concern for how they will feel as a result of whatever change will be done to it, which I believe is TRULY malicious. The responses to people's outrage regarding it were solely defensive, as if the players' feelings hold no value despite our devotion and how much money most active players have thrown at this server. We are active players and consumers of this server, and I understand there are lines that should be drawn when it comes to what a player wants, but I feel as if that line should only be intended for something innapropriate or unfair to others. Customs are not one of them, and the change is SOLELY catering to the staff. Many players are against it, especially yozb, who is definitely the most upset about this. I understand that the Staff member that enforces this has a vision in their mind, but they are sharing this server with the community aswell, and who are not happy with the change, or INDIFFERENT to it at WORST!
 
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+1

Sonicriders explained a lot of my frustration through this post. I don't understand why there is such little transparency and communication to the SRP playerbase. This has proven time and time again to be one of the bigger issues, just for it to be swept under the rug. With the housing bug, people have been losing all their progress due to a glitch that they wouldn't have known if it wasn't for the playerbase working together. There was no announcement nor any word besides from the help channel from staff explaining what is going on. Even that was the bare minimum of communication between the playerbase and staff team. The only word regarding this was a reply explaining that the announcement is unnecessary due to the glitch not being considered "severe". I personally believe it doesn't get any more gamebreaking and severe than this considering players on SRP are only allowed ONE property. This also means, most players tend to keep all their items inside their property. If you were to lose your property due to the glitch, not only would you lose your property but you would also lose ALL your items. I've had friends stressed over this bug, worried that they would lose all their progress after years of playing. I've HAD friends who lost all their items, their properties and still haven't gotten any of it returned even after contacting staff. I, myself was one who was worried about losing their property and items and it doesn't reassure me that there is no fix besides relying on staff to return my items.

I don't believe I'm asking for much here. As sonicriders mentioned, we want transparency and communication of what is going on between staff and the players. From what I've seen the "solution" to the housing was originally found by a player, and so far it feels like players are the only people who are actually trying to understand what is going on with this bug. This "solution" has also been disproven to not work as people still lose their properties even after repurchasing their house. I'm not saying that the staff members aren't doing any work, I'm explaining that without any communication or transparency there is no clear progress whether this bug is going to be fixed or not. Sure, staff members don't need to be held up to standard in terms of development with the server but I feel it's their responsibility in order to communicate what the problem is in order to keep the playerbase reassured rather than just saying "We are fixing it." Us, the playerbase deserve to understand what is going on for a bug as gamebreaking as this. Whether you are struggling or not to come up with a solution it is better than staying silent and having players lose their properties without knowledge of the bug.

This all goes the same with any other bugs such as with the mailman. We need communication and transparency of what is going on, it helps us know that the playerbase isn't being neglected. I appreciate the attempt to communicate with the playerbase so far, but I feel it's important to actually communicate to the server rather than only speak directly to those who have been affected. I hope for better communication in the future between the playerbase and staff team.

In continuation to sonicriders' point, I want to go over the issues with the customs regarding the "Moriel Maeng" Wax Statue. From my perspective, I see the situation as a way to show that the playerbase values aren't a concern to the staff team. Not only have players been silenced for voicing their opinions, I haven't seen a single response objecting the reversal of the texture of the wax statue. The response to the wax statue change was dissatisfied and from what I've seen, the majority would like the custom to be reversed to its original texture. It feels like the playerbase's opinion was ignored and overridden specifically because a staff member didn't agree.

If this isn't the case, communication is drastic since overriding the opinions of tens of players for a change that wasn't asked for only represents that the playerbase voice doesn't matter. Not only was a forum locked after a singular reply by a staff member, but any comment after the review was deleted showing that the players just don't have say in the server they choose to play on. Please communicate to us, the community, why updating a texture to match the server's style overrides tens of players' dissatisfaction and opinions.

Embedded here is a conversation representing players not having a say after a decision (The picture on the right is the deleted forum post):

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A staff report that was quickly shutdown disregarding any of the playerbases' opinions:

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