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Bring back Kill Permissions *NOT CLICKBAIT*
- Thread starter Infi
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Honestly, neutral this in general though I feel like if KPS rule that is not consenting does come back, you will have to have a lot of setbacks because people would honestly KPS your characters for no reason or newly turned red greenies that just doesn't know the rules as well and they take advantage of it. This is was an issue in the past where people would kill other characters who know really a reason if they don't know the rules, example of this was my friends who was role playing it didn't know the rules well with the permission side, he ballistic well in school grounds and head-butted someone. Usually this would be for a majors and it usually would bring minors within a SafeZone. I think at the time but the other player took advantage of him not knowing such rules and KPS them. Well in general I don't know how I feel about this cuz this hasn't really have any effect on me as I'm a person doesn't really gangrp like that but otherwise, I feel like KPS in general would have to be edited or whatever along with other permissions that people may toss around in this case major permissions. I feel as if major permissions also should be edited because people are tossing around like it's candy, mainly doing the sake of major permissions just for the activity of their gang and not for the roleplay experience.
Honestly, neutral this in general though I feel like if KPS rule that is not consenting does come back, you will have to have a lot of setbacks because people would honestly KPS your characters for no reason or newly turned red greenies that just doesn't know the rules as well and they take advantage of it. This is was an issue in the past where people would kill other characters who know really a reason if they don't know the rules, example of this was my friends who was role playing it didn't know the rules well with the permission side, he ballistic well in school grounds and head-butted someone. Usually this would be for a majors and it usually would bring minors within a SafeZone. I think at the time but the other player took advantage of him not knowing such rules and KPS them. Well in general I don't know how I feel about this cuz this hasn't really have any effect on me as I'm a person doesn't really gangrp like that but otherwise, I feel like KPS in general would have to be edited or whatever along with other permissions that people may toss around in this case major permissions. I feel as if major permissions also should be edited because people are tossing around like it's candy, mainly doing the sake of major permissions just for the activity of their gang and not for the roleplay experience.
It will definitely be edited and brought back with extreme caution should this suggestion be accepted. I appreciate the concern however.
Shi I posted my reply too fast LMAO. anyways if KPS were brought back, it’d be in a fashion where new players (red tags) cannot be targeted and baited kps. They would have to execute certain major permissions or hitman permissions in order For someone to gain kps. “Baiting” permissions will be near impossible. Hope that rests some concerns for u!
(Note: you’d see people baiting consented perms (the current system of kps) off of new players more than you would attempting to bait these permissions)
There is a should and a shouldn't. You shouldn't power game for example. You should roleplay consequences, roleplaying consequences is a should.
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’m an inexperienced gangrper and im trying to shelter underneath my friends, im aware of the sewers but most of the time get lost qhen trying to navigate them. I know that they wont kill him over minors, but Tobias as ive written him will spit on people, kick them in the nuts, and anger them enough that they’d want to. He’a a brash character and thats the way i like him. Gangrping with him would be rather frighting as ive said, and j like how Kana put it, they’re our characters so we should decide when their story ends.I’m not trying to spark up a debate, but i just wanted you to know that I see your side and know you’re experienced, but that just isnt how i like it!
Hiya GangRP enthusiast and builder oInfi here, I would just like to reassure you that this in no shape way or form will hinder your ability to play your character the way you want to! This system is in fact designed to prevent people from dying unnecessary deaths but at the same time providing an alternative, still lore motivated method of GangRPing. You are fully capable of keeping your character safe, you can even major people and it wouldn’t result in KPS (depending on the limb you’d take). Only two things would allow your character to have KPS on their back. Those two things are extremely simple to avoid. Just don’t take a major limb or hire a hitman. I’m sure your character’s lore does not include hitman work and taking off whole arms and legs. If it does however, I guess this system just isn’t for you and that’s fine
To those who put a +1, or are on the neutral side, what is your opinion on receiving KPS upon figuring out a character’s death? Obviously consented perms and obtainable perms would be separated (I.e. you’d have to consent to kps if you killed someone who consented to kps). Should KPS in fact be obtainable via learning who killed another person?
It doesn’t! currently though he is out for revenge.. Thanks for responding with my concerns. Posting on forums like these are scary nowadays..
Nah I totally understand that you're all good :D
+1 Expect I want it to be EXTREMELY HARD to get KPS on someone, requiring for an admin to watch it go down. and for admin to approve of the situation considering how annoying it is to lose a char. It should be almost like an event with everything thought out carefully, not people running up, ko'ing u. stabbing ur carotid and ending ur char.
This is exactly what consented KPS provides, but without the needless interference from staff members. Why make things more complicated?
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The permissions are going to be much harder to acquire, and for people afraid of losing their character should understand that there are ways to avoid getting your character killed. One is not engaging in gangrp.. You can simply not major someone and they won't gain the permissions, or even better, do it masked. Same with the hitman. If you do not want to risk your character dying, don't hire a third party who could potentially double-cross you. This system will make it VERY difficult to bait perms, if it is even possible. If you know people are perm hungry, then don't escalate permissions to the point they can kill your character.
I personally use my main character as my gang character. If I lose him to someone who is hungry to kill him, I'll of course be upset, but that is a RISK I took when I made him my gang character. It's not illegal to have multiple characters, nor is it illegal to get development on both. If you are afraid of your most important character dying, you can freely use another and make that character have their own story. I'm not saying to make a throwaway character by any means, but you don't have to put the character you have spent your own time gaining development into harm's way. It's all a personal choice.
The current "eye for an eye" state of gangrp is mainly just taking the eyes of characters, making them really difficult to play. It's not impossible, but not many people WANT to roleplay out a blind character. They would rather bench the character and make a new one, rather than adapt to playing something that they themselves don't know how to. It's either they bench the character or just outright consent to the KPS because they would rather not have to deal with that character.
The permissions are going to be much harder to acquire, and for people afraid of losing their character should understand that there are ways to avoid getting your character killed. One is not engaging in gangrp.. You can simply not major someone and they won't gain the permissions, or even better, do it masked. Same with the hitman. If you do not want to risk your character dying, don't hire a third party who could potentially double-cross you. This system will make it VERY difficult to bait perms, if it is even possible. If you know people are perm hungry, then don't escalate permissions to the point they can kill your character.
I personally use my main character as my gang character. If I lose him to someone who is hungry to kill him, I'll of course be upset, but that is a RISK I took when I made him my gang character. It's not illegal to have multiple characters, nor is it illegal to get development on both. If you are afraid of your most important character dying, you can freely use another and make that character have their own story. I'm not saying to make a throwaway character by any means, but you don't have to put the character you have spent your own time gaining development into harm's way. It's all a personal choice.
The current "eye for an eye" state of gangrp is mainly just taking the eyes of characters, making them really difficult to play. It's not impossible, but not many people WANT to roleplay out a blind character. They would rather bench the character and make a new one, rather than adapt to playing something that they themselves don't know how to. It's either they bench the character or just outright consent to the KPS because they would rather not have to deal with that character.
In response to this one, it is a bit of a double-edged sword. On one hand, from a development standpoint, if you discover someone killed someone important to your character, they would understandably want revenge. But on the other hand, someone could allow their character to die so their gang or friends can kill your character. My opinion on this would be more neutral than everything, since it could be roleplayed out amazingly, but it could also just be another way for people to gain KPS.
hebwig
Level 110
this is why i bring up nerfing hospital..........that sentence sounds so stupid out of context LOL but this would bring back the risk that's currently missing without toying with rules that could potentially get someone's character Permanently Killed (Unconsented)
i mentioned i'm all for more exceptions like how hirathex mentioned in the original thread. hope the server shuts down. do that & make sure hospital workers arent gods & we're in the right business!
hebwig
Level 110
?????????????????????????????????? Wait wghat
never said this....
I brought up many different ways that we can add further risk to GangRP without character death, take those into consideration before simply ignoring them and moving on. (Not targeted at anyone, I just want to make sure my reply is heard.) I understand the want for risk, but it can certainly be made up in other ways, besides, we will NEVER have a full-on risk factor to gangrp... they're Minecraft characters, and barely anyone is attached to them besides the select few (at least in the gangrp community).
oih my bad, i read wrong
Aidanator14
Level 15
Ruin you right rolling and simple roleplay is of course still roleplay thats a giving, the issue is running around as a 18 year old with 50 katana's 400+ confirmed kills, this should not be how SRP is used, roleplay is up to the user as you said, so therefore kill perms shouldn't be around for the reason that you have stated.
With having a gang of masked people all with katana's trying to hunt me around karakura, that my friend is blocking me from how I want to roleplay. So using your logic why should KPS be brought back when it will affect and block many people from roleplaying the way that they are wanting too.
my brother in christ gang of masked people wont chase you if you dont run in with a katana and stab them all
if this suggestion were to be added all you have to do is not major an important limb & body part or hire hitmen. You can still carve or remove their hands without giving KPS.
this suggestion does not remove your ability to p2l or consent, it will still exist but there will be other ways whether you see it as a "bad" or "good" way. In my opinion there is no good or bad way to "gangrp succesfully" There can be multiple ways to gain kps and I'm 100% sure this wont affect people who wants to gangrp but not lose their character to another person that much since you can still major their hand & carve them but just wont be able to take their entire arm or important body part.