buvet
Level 11
Agreed! I believe this is just directed to the staff who usually discuss it :3
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Police stop demanding everyone to leave.
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buvet
Level 11
also it definitely upset people, rightfully so because like I said getting complaints when everyone is trying to do as they're told sucks
EnderBubs
Level 58
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As an officer for KPD on our end unless we are old by staff (yonio mainly) to not respond, we respond
Look at it from a KPD ICLY perspective. Why would we let people get injuried? And let people be put in danger? That goes against our entire protocol. We don’t just ignore calls. Unless it’s an official event where KPD is told otherwise, we respond too it as we would respond tj any other call
As an officer for KPD on our end unless we are old by staff (yonio mainly) to not respond, we respond
Look at it from a KPD ICLY perspective. Why would we let people get injuried? And let people be put in danger? That goes against our entire protocol. We don’t just ignore calls. Unless it’s an official event where KPD is told otherwise, we respond too it as we would respond tj any other call
I agree with this while it can be annoying that we can sometimes stop events early or ruin them think about our perspective again like he said I love all the events that happen but sometimes it's just a part of our job to respond that way and it can be a little bit mentally taxing when we get yelled at or get suggestions made that tell us to basically stop our jobs and again as he said whenever possible if an admin or a higher-up in the event staff tell us not to intervene we will listen so all we ask is a warning beforehand! We are players too and do want to enjoy the event but sometimes it comes down to the fact that it's what our ic jobs require sadly.
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I know it isn't fun to be yelled at to leave, but it's realistic in such a situation..
When people are being attacked by an entity, KPD and EMS and Shrine are going to want everyone out to PROTECT YOU.. It's our job and we're unable to just ignore it. Yes event is fun, but KPD and everyone yelling for everyone out is not only to calm down the scene and not overwhelm players or even the event team/members of KPD, Shrine, EMS, etc! I don't think we should point fingers and blame, nothing should be direct unless it's FULLY on them, y'know? I'd like if there was no blaming in order and we just think about the fun we had during the event!!!
I know it isn't fun to be yelled at to leave, but it's realistic in such a situation..
When people are being attacked by an entity, KPD and EMS and Shrine are going to want everyone out to PROTECT YOU.. It's our job and we're unable to just ignore it. Yes event is fun, but KPD and everyone yelling for everyone out is not only to calm down the scene and not overwhelm players or even the event team/members of KPD, Shrine, EMS, etc! I don't think we should point fingers and blame, nothing should be direct unless it's FULLY on them, y'know? I'd like if there was no blaming in order and we just think about the fun we had during the event!!!
FancyLyricz
Level 3
From reading the above responses, it's very clear that everyone has the idea this suggestion is in favor of KPD to not get involved, but that's not the case. There's nothing wrong with police wanting civilians to leave for their safety, but to threaten everyone at an open event at a large public location is unfair and not exactly okay. There were people still being attacked and in the middle of SeriousRP, it's not easy to just force EVERYONE to drop the situation they are in. Keep in mind, this event was held in the forest, a public place where ghosts often reside, to threaten every player to leave this area is about the same as laying down crime tape over the forest due to 'spiritual activity' and threatening to arrest anyone who trespasses, at this point the forest may as well just be removed. A lot of these comments are showing hints of hostility when this was a simple suggestion that should allow event team members to be able to get through their events.
Yes, it is safe to assume that KPD will almost always get involved in planned events, even if they aren't informed of said event. But the main focus here is that they were threatening players with being arrested at an open gathering in which characters were made up for the event, were only just finally getting scary and interacting with everyone. This does not mean that the force cannot tell people to leave, that is completely fine, it's realistic even, but there is no reason to arrest them, they are not obstructing as a genuine crime was not committed, there are spirits that go out of their own way to search for players on their own, even if you tell players to leave the forest, these spirits have the capability to seek out and torment these players once again, arresting them is only going to put it on their character record only because they wanted to see an event out until it's end? These 'ghost' characters were made for this particular event, so they most likely aren't going to be around for very long, people are going to want to interact with them as much as they possibly can before they are no longer used.
Once again, I will make this clear, there is NOTHING wrong with asking people to leave out of their own safety, but threatening to arrest them for not leaving is. I understand that it is to build up a scene and cause players to get scared, but to force people to leave an event that has only just begun and cut it short and risk the event team not even being able to do everything that they may have been planned, it's going to cause players to believe that events are dry and they'll feel less obligated to go out of their way to show up to these events if they are simply going to be told to leave within the first 30 minutes. They should continue to protect and encourage people to leave the scene to keep them safe, but I believe they need to go about it differently, perhaps by escorting people out on their own, but to threaten with arrests is just a bit far in my opinion.
I believe the event started off a bit slow and at first I wasn't sure where the event was going. I thought maybe we'd get to purchase jack-o-lanterns, pumpkins, or items related to a pumpkin patch. Once I had noticed the 'Pumpkin People' I grew excited, I often try to actively participate when a spirit approaches a group I'm in because I want that interaction for my character and I'm often being left out of those situations and it can be somewhat frustrating to watch the same people receive attention whenever we encounter a spirit. So to be focused on in that type of RP for once was refreshing, it was a new experience, but then it was unfortunately cut short because we were being threatened to leave or our characters were going to get arrested. Had we been escorted rather than threatened and perhaps there was something waiting for us at the exit of the forest, I believe it would have been more thrilling and would have encouraged more people to leave and see what was happening on the outside rather than the inside.
Yes, it is safe to assume that KPD will almost always get involved in planned events, even if they aren't informed of said event. But the main focus here is that they were threatening players with being arrested at an open gathering in which characters were made up for the event, were only just finally getting scary and interacting with everyone. This does not mean that the force cannot tell people to leave, that is completely fine, it's realistic even, but there is no reason to arrest them, they are not obstructing as a genuine crime was not committed, there are spirits that go out of their own way to search for players on their own, even if you tell players to leave the forest, these spirits have the capability to seek out and torment these players once again, arresting them is only going to put it on their character record only because they wanted to see an event out until it's end? These 'ghost' characters were made for this particular event, so they most likely aren't going to be around for very long, people are going to want to interact with them as much as they possibly can before they are no longer used.
Once again, I will make this clear, there is NOTHING wrong with asking people to leave out of their own safety, but threatening to arrest them for not leaving is. I understand that it is to build up a scene and cause players to get scared, but to force people to leave an event that has only just begun and cut it short and risk the event team not even being able to do everything that they may have been planned, it's going to cause players to believe that events are dry and they'll feel less obligated to go out of their way to show up to these events if they are simply going to be told to leave within the first 30 minutes. They should continue to protect and encourage people to leave the scene to keep them safe, but I believe they need to go about it differently, perhaps by escorting people out on their own, but to threaten with arrests is just a bit far in my opinion.
I believe the event started off a bit slow and at first I wasn't sure where the event was going. I thought maybe we'd get to purchase jack-o-lanterns, pumpkins, or items related to a pumpkin patch. Once I had noticed the 'Pumpkin People' I grew excited, I often try to actively participate when a spirit approaches a group I'm in because I want that interaction for my character and I'm often being left out of those situations and it can be somewhat frustrating to watch the same people receive attention whenever we encounter a spirit. So to be focused on in that type of RP for once was refreshing, it was a new experience, but then it was unfortunately cut short because we were being threatened to leave or our characters were going to get arrested. Had we been escorted rather than threatened and perhaps there was something waiting for us at the exit of the forest, I believe it would have been more thrilling and would have encouraged more people to leave and see what was happening on the outside rather than the inside.
This was a planned event that I had personally built. Now I don't know the context of said event aside from a leisurely pumpkin picking experience and I don't know if KPD was intended to be involved, but planned events are not to be disrupted.
I don't think KPD were in the right to send everyone out of the forest when there was an obvious planned event going on. Though I do get where they're coming from, they still should have left the normal players alone and carried on whatever they were doing and respecting the fact that there was an ongoing SRP event occuring.
Now I'm not going to put a +1 or -1 on this, but I do think that there should be more clarity at least in LOOC that there's an event going on and should not be disrupted. Another point is, if gangs cannot attend events to disrupt them and try to get people to leave (which happens occasionally), then KPD should not be able to do the same thing. They're no different in the grand scheme of Event Team doing their job and the player base enjoying a flash event. Like I said if this were any other case, the party disrupting the event would get teleported away and potentially warned. If anyone else had tried to disrupt the event, the same thing would happen.
I believe this is all based off of miscommunication with both parties, and could have been avoided but wasn't.
I don't think KPD were in the right to send everyone out of the forest when there was an obvious planned event going on. Though I do get where they're coming from, they still should have left the normal players alone and carried on whatever they were doing and respecting the fact that there was an ongoing SRP event occuring.
Now I'm not going to put a +1 or -1 on this, but I do think that there should be more clarity at least in LOOC that there's an event going on and should not be disrupted. Another point is, if gangs cannot attend events to disrupt them and try to get people to leave (which happens occasionally), then KPD should not be able to do the same thing. They're no different in the grand scheme of Event Team doing their job and the player base enjoying a flash event. Like I said if this were any other case, the party disrupting the event would get teleported away and potentially warned. If anyone else had tried to disrupt the event, the same thing would happen.
I believe this is all based off of miscommunication with both parties, and could have been avoided but wasn't.
RebelZane
Level 10
Only replying to this, thing is, KPD wasn't intended to be involved, they knew there was an event and they ARE allowed to go to an event where a call from unless otherwise told by Yonio or staff, which they weren't so they were allowed to stop the event due to this IC situation.. This was said in some of the applies too, KPD was just doing their job.
That's not entirely true. It realistically only applies to criminal related events. If everyone called KPD over every single event passive or not we wouldn't have events at all. If GangRPers cannot attend such events with weapons out then it's equally rude for KPD to do so. At passive events like these it's not even allowed to commit crimes during them as its deemed disruptive, hence the unnecessary KPD involvement.
I agree with what Infi is saying - we were only called to evacuate people because the pumpkins (being possessed by spirits) were attacking people which leads to us having to get involved and get people out of the forest for safety purposes
I'm truely a neutral on this post as I get both sides of it, though
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RebelZane
Level 10
Actually.. They were called by a civilian.. about pumpkins attacking people...
what.
vibingmusic
Level 3
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I get why you're upset, but when a civilian calls the 110 hotline saying possessed pumpkin people are attacking others you should expect KPD and EMS to show up. It interests us. Honestly, it was just us doing our jobs. As will stated, the emergency faction preaches "protect and serve" which applies to getting random ass calls. Yes, we get a lot of random calls throughout the day, but when 6 people call about the same thing, we need to check it out. If the event team does not want anyone to respond to the event, they should communicate that with Yonio and Alex OOCLY.
I get why you're upset, but when a civilian calls the 110 hotline saying possessed pumpkin people are attacking others you should expect KPD and EMS to show up. It interests us. Honestly, it was just us doing our jobs. As will stated, the emergency faction preaches "protect and serve" which applies to getting random ass calls. Yes, we get a lot of random calls throughout the day, but when 6 people call about the same thing, we need to check it out. If the event team does not want anyone to respond to the event, they should communicate that with Yonio and Alex OOCLY.
RebelZane
Level 10
It is true, that is why the KPD showed up, ghosts took over the pumpkins as far as I am aware with witnesses because they got a few calls about that, the one directly above this reply also states as well.. as many others in this suggestion..
I just can't wrap my head around KPD answering a phone call "Help pumpkins became sentient and started attacking people"
RebelZane
Level 10
Well, it happened.. Thats the only reason they showed up, was because they got multiple calls about it so ofc they had to handle it and evacuate everyone, and I agree with the other person, if they didn't want KPD to show up should've told Alex and Yonio.. Last reply.
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