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Feedback Regarding Adult Role
- Thread starter Mark 9:42
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Seems like a lot of work...
Seems like a lot of work...
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There are a few reasons as to why this would not be a very good idea.
[1] "SchoolRP"
As you have noticed in the name, the server is called SchoolRP due to it's focus on student roleplay. We are immediately given a student role upon joining the server and recieve plenty of opportunities to roleplay this out. It's obvious that the server's intention is not to stray to "CityRP" - considering the mass removal of roles in the past because the school faction was not as active as imagined. It wouldn't really makes sense for an adult rank to be so obtainable.
[2] Effort
I think that this the rules for receiving the adult tag are pretty just. To receive the adult role, you must have been in a faction with said role for more or less 2 months -- and active. Why should you receive the role if you haven't been putting in the appropriate effort to maintain it, or have just joined it only to leave? Imagine how many people would apply for roles just to take up space for a week or so, then leave, for the adult tag. It is a privilege granted to people who are receiving a tag long-term, and willing to work to maintain it.
To conclude. I believe that there's no problem with how it is now. If the adult role was so easily obtainable, the server would lose it's purpose and simply turn into CityRP.
There are a few reasons as to why this would not be a very good idea.
[1] "SchoolRP"
As you have noticed in the name, the server is called SchoolRP due to it's focus on student roleplay. We are immediately given a student role upon joining the server and recieve plenty of opportunities to roleplay this out. It's obvious that the server's intention is not to stray to "CityRP" - considering the mass removal of roles in the past because the school faction was not as active as imagined. It wouldn't really makes sense for an adult rank to be so obtainable.
[2] Effort
I think that this the rules for receiving the adult tag are pretty just. To receive the adult role, you must have been in a faction with said role for more or less 2 months -- and active. Why should you receive the role if you haven't been putting in the appropriate effort to maintain it, or have just joined it only to leave? Imagine how many people would apply for roles just to take up space for a week or so, then leave, for the adult tag. It is a privilege granted to people who are receiving a tag long-term, and willing to work to maintain it.
To conclude. I believe that there's no problem with how it is now. If the adult role was so easily obtainable, the server would lose it's purpose and simply turn into CityRP.
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Regarding this suggestion, I believe the current system in place works fine as it is, if someone is unhappy in their faction, there's no saying that they can't just graduate into college and follow the progression timeline that's already been mentioned, or there's nothing stopping them from applying into a faction they would be happier working in.
And you don't always have to void your character progression if you are sent back down to your previous role after quitting the faction, you can always just shelve your character until you have the chance to become an adult! This obviously isn't really the greatest option for most people that enjoy playing their characters, but it makes the most sense in terms of not wanting to void any relationships or backstory features because of being sent down.
TLDR; You can always shelve a character if you don't receive the adult role when you quit your job.
Regarding this suggestion, I believe the current system in place works fine as it is, if someone is unhappy in their faction, there's no saying that they can't just graduate into college and follow the progression timeline that's already been mentioned, or there's nothing stopping them from applying into a faction they would be happier working in.
And you don't always have to void your character progression if you are sent back down to your previous role after quitting the faction, you can always just shelve your character until you have the chance to become an adult! This obviously isn't really the greatest option for most people that enjoy playing their characters, but it makes the most sense in terms of not wanting to void any relationships or backstory features because of being sent down.
TLDR; You can always shelve a character if you don't receive the adult role when you quit your job.
Shelv
Shelving a character makes no sense this there is literally no guarantee that you'll even use it back due to the adult role being so difficult to obtain
It's not even that difficult. Stay active for 2-3 months and that's it. Most roles require a certain quota too.. So you could do the bare minimum and get it.
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While I see your concern for your friend, upon getting a job you should expect to get the adult role after the required time. The role is meant to be difficult to get, not only for RP purposes, but to give players another motive to work in this game.
As I stated, "This obviously isn't the greatest option for people that enjoy playing their characters", due to the fact there is no guarantee, but if you are unable to show you are dedicated to your faction lead and get the adult role, then it is the most logical way of getting around having to void countless encounters.
This is essentially what I was trying to say in my previous response.
Someone poeple go into it thinking it's fun and offers new opportunities but most of them like EMS and KPD don't even get roleplay normally, teachers mostly just hosting classes log them then log off and shopkeepers the same thing, I didn't even remember the Shrine existed until recently, most of them don't even get interactions (EMS specifically) and most of them come out as time consuming and stressful even without the interactions
Bookish
Level 17
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I think this is a tricky scenario.
On one hand, we don't want people wasting spots that others want just to get adult tag.
On the other hand, for some people a month or more of roleplay would be scrapped just because they are being stressed.
My solution might be to base the adult system off of quota and not of time. This being said, it could be possible to obtain adult role in 1 month for teachers.
For, let's say doctor in EMS.
Once they complete an all time of 40 appointments they can get adult role.
So either 2 months of normal quota, 1 month of 30 and 1 month of just 10, etc.
Then for teachers, once they achieve 50 all time they can become an adult.
So maybe 1 month of 35, another month then 15 and so on.
Etc.
This is a W.I.P, just another idea.
Reply with additions!
I think this is a tricky scenario.
On one hand, we don't want people wasting spots that others want just to get adult tag.
On the other hand, for some people a month or more of roleplay would be scrapped just because they are being stressed.
My solution might be to base the adult system off of quota and not of time. This being said, it could be possible to obtain adult role in 1 month for teachers.
For, let's say doctor in EMS.
Once they complete an all time of 40 appointments they can get adult role.
So either 2 months of normal quota, 1 month of 30 and 1 month of just 10, etc.
Then for teachers, once they achieve 50 all time they can become an adult.
So maybe 1 month of 35, another month then 15 and so on.
Etc.
This is a W.I.P, just another idea.
Reply with additions!
I feel like doing it off quotas makes more sense tbh
As a doctor, you are expected to get twenty months during a month. This goes from the start of the month to the end of the month, which is obviously enough time to get more than twenty quotas if you are active enough. This would obviously make it unfair if say a doctor only has to get forty quotas to become an adult.
So regarding your suggestion of basing it off of quotas, I do not agree.
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I don't trust the majority of people with RPing teenagers as most College-Students cant even do that properly, a application would obviously weed out most of the people but there would still be a large amount of outliers who just know how to make a good application.
I would also like to reference this members post in which defines a way your friend could've gone about receiving adult rank.
hard work is a better determination of skill in a role then a application anywho.
I don't trust the majority of people with RPing teenagers as most College-Students cant even do that properly, a application would obviously weed out most of the people but there would still be a large amount of outliers who just know how to make a good application.
I would also like to reference this members post in which defines a way your friend could've gone about receiving adult rank.
Also, there's another way to get the adult rank. Which is the college test examation.
hard work is a better determination of skill in a role then a application anywho.
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To blatantly add, this is SchoolRP. The reason adult jobs exist isnt for you to get the adult tag its to better the rp experience by having teachers to actually teach classes, school staff to rp school situations out with. EMS and KPD are mainly added to assist in gangrp situations as a way to combat situations. At the end of the day, this isnt CityRP.
A lot of players join a job, dont even put in the work and expect the tag when they leave due to “relations” which is unfair to the faction owner trying to run a healthy faction and its sad to see when these SLT or leads try to keep a faction going and people only join for the tag.
I would say sure at the end of the day add the adult tag but again it is SchoolRp and meant to be revolved around that. Also with the situation with your friend, it’s understandable to be overwhelmed but the job itself is very explanatory and something they themselves then decided to sign up for. In short, the rules exist to prevent people only joining to get the tag and not even put in the time or work. And as someone who is trying so fix the shrine faction, i get dms all day about “how long do I have to stay till i get the adult tag” and its extremely upsetting.
To blatantly add, this is SchoolRP. The reason adult jobs exist isnt for you to get the adult tag its to better the rp experience by having teachers to actually teach classes, school staff to rp school situations out with. EMS and KPD are mainly added to assist in gangrp situations as a way to combat situations. At the end of the day, this isnt CityRP.
A lot of players join a job, dont even put in the work and expect the tag when they leave due to “relations” which is unfair to the faction owner trying to run a healthy faction and its sad to see when these SLT or leads try to keep a faction going and people only join for the tag.
I would say sure at the end of the day add the adult tag but again it is SchoolRp and meant to be revolved around that. Also with the situation with your friend, it’s understandable to be overwhelmed but the job itself is very explanatory and something they themselves then decided to sign up for. In short, the rules exist to prevent people only joining to get the tag and not even put in the time or work. And as someone who is trying so fix the shrine faction, i get dms all day about “how long do I have to stay till i get the adult tag” and its extremely upsetting.
qbigail
Level 77
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Ruins the whole point of working hard to get an adult role. More people would have it, making the whole school aspect of roleplay discarded and unpopular on a SCHOOL roleplay server. As someone who was in a faction for 8 months, I would be pretty upset if someone got an adult tag without being in the faction for a long period of time.
Ruins the whole point of working hard to get an adult role. More people would have it, making the whole school aspect of roleplay discarded and unpopular on a SCHOOL roleplay server. As someone who was in a faction for 8 months, I would be pretty upset if someone got an adult tag without being in the faction for a long period of time.
Bookish
Level 17
UPDATED RATING:
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I have read through other replies, and in the end, I agree with the majority of comments. I am very sorry for your friends, but that is a situation that isn't the majority, it's the minority. This is SchoolRP, and thus, it's not easy to get the Adult tag, because those are not the players who are the majority of the server.
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I have read through other replies, and in the end, I agree with the majority of comments. I am very sorry for your friends, but that is a situation that isn't the majority, it's the minority. This is SchoolRP, and thus, it's not easy to get the Adult tag, because those are not the players who are the majority of the server.
