Bro what the fuck definitely not, like look some people like gangrp but you got to think of it like this some of us come from fivem which is gang only grand theft auto roleplay simple easy making money. What I'm trying to say is your statement is good but it just also ruins the fact how gangrp helps most people in the server make money at least 40% but if gangrp gets changed they should make more ways of getting things such as money and more etc. Like jobs for example and make them apply able like not to the shopkeeper but to the admins apply able because most people doesn't hire anyone to their job due to ooc things which makes plain no sense...
I won't say a lot of repeats considering that everyone has pretty much said everything that I would've said myself, but there are a few things I'd like to add.
As everyone else said, staff cannot moderate and "fix" crime-oriented roleplay. Ever. That's just how it is, considering it's a freelance part of the community that is basically entirely ran by players. Crime roleplay will never be restricted to an application system because majority of the community wants it to remain an open part of the server. However, more powerful influences in the crime community need to encourage more lore, storytelling, and actually sensible roleplay- or staff need to start bringing more light to the fact that actual roleplay is encouraged. Kishi's verified status doesn't make sense to me, in complete honesty. The activity channel contradicts what being a verified gang is supposed to be for, and is truly disappointing to see. Every time that the idea that more time should be put into roleplay is brought up, there's always the same excuses that can very easily be refuted, but the community refuses to listen. "Well what if the cops show up? We don't have time to write actions."
This scenario is completely understandable and deemed as more than acceptable to use keybinds/copypaste actions, but there is absolutely no excuse for the times where you are doing minor, secluded roleplay that was started up on your behalf and isn't as severe. It's not that difficult to write more than /me punches temple in a simple street brawl. "Doing copypaste actions is the same thing as writing your actions regularly."(Apart from scenarios like stated above)
There's a reason why its put in a separate category apart from actual roleplay. Sure, you may have taken the time to write out actions for each respective weapon or scenario, but RP on the server isn't just about the fact that you do write, but it's about what your writing entails. Just as I said previously, there is absolutely no excuse for not writing out your own actions in simple scenarios and actually feeding into the idea that roleplay is entirely improv. "Don't GangRP if you don't want your character killed."
If I hear this phrase again I'm going to tear my hair out, one strand at a time. This saying is overused and invalid, and can be proven with one character interaction, being the Alexandra Reznik situation. A cheerleader for spartans known for having a very bold, and aggressive, threatened to gut someone with a knife. This is just the character being played properly. Alexandra Reznik is not known as any sort of threat, not in a gang, or is not known to hurt anyone majorly at all among the citizens of Karakura. But still, in result, the character nearly lost her leg and was almost killed off entirely- because the person played her the way that she should be played, because that's how the character was made to be. Killing off developed characters with throwaways and over singular miniscule actions will never ever be looked up to on the server. Myself and many others will stand by that firmly. "I didn't join SRP to do all this writing."
Log off. Reflect.
Writing is not a difficult thing to do. I don't mean write out full on novels for a simple interaction, but taking the time to dissect your character and make them into so much more is not hard to do at all. Baby steps, guys. It's not difficult to do gang-related roleplay and actually do on the spot actions.
Actions from myself.
Action from a friend that was involved.
People are more than happy to help those of you that need it, I'm sure. Myself included.
if you want to have a simple street brawl you could agree to 'no perms' and if the other person is chill enough they'd probably just agree with u asking for no perms.
I've tried this before, and despite running and being apart of the delinquent group that is known not to wield any weapons or act on major/kill permissions, the offer was declined for.. whatever reason. This isn't a solution, but is indeed a good start. Sadly, it won't work sometimes.
In conclusion if you want to still GangRP and not use your character do it smartly. Don't just KO someone with no mask on and an identifiable outfit and then complain about your character being Majored/Killed. And you can simply not get engaged in any GangRP situation and keep your character as you like.
6-9+ months through the college system, or abandoning GangRP for 4 months to obtain an adult rank through legitimate employment. Both of these are extremely lengthy, and all of this to simply acquire a Katana is truly silly; [...]
There are alternative weapons to use besides the ones that are being suggested to reach a regimen for. The benefits those weapons give you such as a higher range, less hits to ko, etc, should be seen as rewards for working so hard- just like the adult rank in itself. The work you put into things almost always have a reward in store for you at the end, so long as you are putting effort into what you're doing. 2-3 months to sacrifice not hurting other characters seems like a fair tradeoff, especially when most players on the server have an alternate account that can be used to gangrp anyways.
Bro what the fuck definitely not, like look some people like gangrp but you got to think of it like this some of us come from fivem which is gang only grand theft auto roleplay simple easy making money.
Respectfully, cope. This isn't FiveM, so you can't expect things to be handled the same here.
The crime community can improve. They definitely can. Metsu is actually a prime example of that. But it's a matter of bringing around proper influences, and making rules and guidelines far more clear. I'm not only addressing the people who do GangRP for the "rush" of it, but also people who take it far too seriously. Some people may take it seriously, writing out lore and making sure everything within their organization make sense, but this goes out to people who are nothing but elitist and discriminatory to other people who don't dish out entire paragraphs with every action they do. Some people aren't capable of doing so or just aren't used to that and that is completely fine, some people need to learn to tone it down with the prejudice mentality they hold over the heads of some casual roleplayers. Your behavior is just as unacceptable as any person you dislike.
In all seriousness the people who pointed out the community needs a change is right at the end of the day. I still remember speaking with older gangrper (some who are banned or some who just quit gangrp) about how it is now and the only reason it’s the way it is and why they also had to slowly adapt to such a change (yet some still do what they usually do) is because of the big waves of newer people trying to learn how to gangrp. Things go wrong when others don’t know what they’re doing and roleplay seems stiff and dull when all you get is a simple /me stabs carotid and /me dips. I remember when I asked a gangrp (back then like year or two ago) to kill my character. They took me to a location and actually roleplay out my character’s death and also carved their gang’s symbol into my character chest. Little did I know that would be the last time I saw some spice into killing actions. Yes, staff could give a little push into encouraging better reasons for killing characters but at the end of the day, the new waves of people trying to join he gangrp community is the reason gangrp is the way it is. Ask staff how many /helps or dms they get about a perm situation
Also why the frk are you complaining over getting killed when you waited for a bmd to get on, you called them, you bought a bat, then you ko'd someone with it. LIKE WTF IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GET KILLED DON'T GIVE PEOPLE KILL PERMS!!
they don't get to randomly kill you. if they are, contact staff. Also as long as I'm alive, gangrp is always gonna be a thing, no matter what form.
Yk what? wanna know what to change with gangrp?
TOXICITY
i know many toxic people while gangrping and it kinda sucks to have your arm chopped off, and then have them say, WHILE YOU'RE TYPING "painrp painrp WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING PAINRP YOU UGLY ASS BITCH!!! YOU SUCK I HOPE YOU DIE IN A HOLE ALL ALONE THEN GET EATEN BY WORMS AHAHAAAAA"
Like honestly, bunnierp is awesome, but she's super toxic. Also, i remember when a bunch of people were perm banned unappealable for toxicity while gangrping, and I guess this has been happening for a while! take this for instance View attachment 24971 View attachment 24972
I just feel like we should start some sort of revolutionary rule about toxicity, so that we can start gangrp over, fresh of toxic people!
Here's a way it could be done:
If someone is banned or warned from toxicity, then they could either get a strike or some sort of thing, or maybe if it's enough toxicity they will be blacklisted from gangrp. Until ofc, they appeal the ban AND the gangrp blacklist! This could potentially correct all sorts of things that have to deal with toxicity.
Also I might make this a suggestion, but maybe not if someone else does then credit me because I would love for this to be a thing due to how much people are oocly toxic while gangrping
Yeah this is actually the main target of the problem for gangrp and someone made a suggestion for actual guidelines on gangrp to be made in a different thread. I would hope that could also change something. Most toxicity stems from perms because it’s always being passed around to different people and then arguments breakout about peoples character being killed and then it becomes a mess. I remember being in a position on another server to have to moderate a gangrp situation. Definitely not something I want to deal with it at all! It’s always a situation about perms which causes toxicity or at least one of the causes for it
Yk what? wanna know what to change with gangrp?
TOXICITY
i know many toxic people while gangrping and it kinda sucks to have your arm chopped off, and then have them say, WHILE YOU'RE TYPING "painrp painrp WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING PAINRP YOU UGLY ASS BITCH!!! YOU SUCK I HOPE YOU DIE IN A HOLE ALL ALONE THEN GET EATEN BY WORMS AHAHAAAAA"
Like honestly, bunnierp is awesome, but she's super toxic. Also, i remember when a bunch of people were perm banned unappealable for toxicity while gangrping, and I guess this has been happening for a while! take this for instance View attachment 24971 View attachment 24972
I just feel like we should start some sort of revolutionary rule about toxicity, so that we can start gangrp over, fresh of toxic people!
Here's a way it could be done:
If someone is banned or warned from toxicity, then they could either get a strike or some sort of thing, or maybe if it's enough toxicity they will be blacklisted from gangrp. Until ofc, they appeal the ban AND the gangrp blacklist! This could potentially correct all sorts of things that have to deal with toxicity.
Also I might make this a suggestion, but maybe not if someone else does then credit me because I would love for this to be a thing due to how much people are oocly toxic while gangrping
Yes - people are banned from SRP (myself included) ; but for most reasons only GangRP’ers get ‘shame’ for being banned, but let’s be honest - 90% of the ‘SCHOOLRP Community’ are toxic individuals. Some of the members of different teams in the Community are very toxic - yet they get appreciated for what they do and contribute to the Community.
People do get strikes, the ‘Blacklists’ for GangRP are decided by the staff involved & how long the blacklist is. The toxicity in ‘GangRP’ will always be like that and most likely will not change.
+1 / Neutral The reason that I have placed a Neutral is because I quite literally agree with both the post and Yonio's statement. There are many flaws in GangRP, as there are in any faction on the server. Other factions are easy to change as there are a set amount of people, however, GangRP relies on the community. To change it, the community needs to agree to it and make the change, which is essentially what Yonio has said.
People do get strikes, the ‘Blacklists’ for GangRP are decided by the staff involved & how long the blacklist is. The toxicity in ‘GangRP’ will always be like that and most likely will not change.
Persistence of consistent deplorable activity means that there will be no change. Do not deem toxicity as the acceptable norm within the community and instead strive for different. There will never be a pass for toxicity, and those banned for these reasons should feel ashamed. The community is being cleansed further every day with toxicity bans, warns, and blacklists, and will continue to get these punishments when deserved, even outside the crime-oriented side of the SRP community. If there's a player that deserves to get removed and hasn't yet, write a report.
I've lost brain cells at how people are turning a simple thread into ways to insult each other. GangRP is flawed, that's all there is to it. I've played tons of other roleplaying games, in which, I've never seen a gang/crime system as awful as srps. This isn't throwing anything toward the SRP staff or any specific person, but remember what roleplay actually is. It's improv, does your copy and pastes stabbing carotid action actually take any skill to write? Is there any fun in it? No. Anyone who says that it's "fun" has most likely never experienced proper roleplay, it may be Minecraft, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be taken just as seriously as other RPs.
ya I know I like that post. But back to the thread on gangrp, so basically its flawd if you haven't tried it but its good when you actually get good rolls and have fun killing and mugging things such as money and more etc.
ya I know I like that post. But back to the thread on gangrp, so basically its flawd if you haven't tried it but its good when you actually get good rolls and have fun killing and mugging things such as money and more etc.
I have done it, I did it for over two years. I still continue to gangrp to this day, without having a single kill/major/etc on my character. You can gangrp without being a perm hungry serial killer.
I think there should be an application to gangrp, that's as simple as it is, and I personally believe that it is the only way to ensure that toxicity is limited and gangrp is roleplayed out properly. It's like the people that play on SRP are blind, look at FantasyRP, do they have gangrp or an equivalent to it? YES. Wanna know why it is so much better than the gangrp on SRP? Because you have to apply to get onto FantasyRP to actually 'gangrp'. +1
Do not take my following reply as an acceptance or denial of this suggestion; rather, take it as a response and opinion from someone who has played the server for over five years and has been a staff member for nearly three of those years in separate occasions.
GangRP is not ruining the server. That's the only thing out of OP's suggestions I will disagree with.
GangRP is driving the server and supporting it with factions, events, lore, characters, and places on the map. It definitely needs to be bettered, however, which is why I completely agree with everything suggested in order to fix our current condition that this side of the server possesses.
Permissions and all of the other rules we have on the server are potentially being overlooked and edited to fit our sister server, FantasyRP, so that it is better clarified and understandable for staff and players alike. This is not to say we will adopt all of FantasyRP's rules but rather to take inspiration from a handful of their systems/guidelines and formatting of their rules. This is not a set-in-stone, one-hundred-percent change yet but I hope it helps in assuring you that this thread will be properly reviewed as with every other feedback we have on the server. You are completely right: permissions are an outdated system that need to be fixed. We'll do the best that we can with this suggestion and in the future, even if all of your ideas are not accepted when the entire staff team review it.
For the age requirement to have certain weapons, too, I agree. It would certainly affect me but it's realistic and that ties hand-in-hand with the concept of not roleplaying to "win." Roleplaying is having fun, developing and writing a character of your own creation. This suggestion about age requirements, although restrictive, is sensical and helpful in bettering GangRP. OP suggested what we exactly need!
That's about as simple as I can make my response to this. I've rewritten this response a few times just to try and properly word what I needed to as quick as possible. A good 25% of the messages in this thread were just removed for how unrelated they were to the suggestion / disrespectful in nature; if you were one of those people instigating others in this thread for no good reason, check up on the Forum Rules for me.
I think there should be an application to gangrp, that's as simple as it is, and I personally believe that it is the only way to ensure that toxicity is limited and gangrp is roleplayed out properly. It's like the people that play on SRP are blind, look at FantasyRP, do they have gangrp or an equivalent to it? YES. Wanna know why it is so much better than the gangrp on SRP? Because you have to apply to get onto FantasyRP to actually 'gangrp'. +1
I feel like this would be a good solution, I have seen role play servers where you need to fill out a delinquent character form so the main focus doesn’t steer away from school but you can still act as a gang member
Do not take my following reply as an acceptance or denial of this suggestion; rather, take it as a response and opinion from someone who has played the server for over five years and has been a staff member for nearly three of those years in separate occasions.
GangRP is not ruining the server. That's the only thing out of OP's suggestions I will disagree with.
GangRP is driving the server and supporting it with factions, events, lore, characters, and places on the map. It definitely needs to be bettered, however, which is why I completely agree with everything suggested in order to fix our current condition that this side of the server possesses.
Permissions and all of the other rules we have on the server are potentially being overlooked and edited to fit our sister server, FantasyRP, so that it is better clarified and understandable for staff and players alike. This is not to say we will adopt all of FantasyRP's rules but rather to take inspiration from a handful of their systems/guidelines and formatting of their rules. This is not a set-in-stone, one-hundred-percent change yet but I hope it helps in assuring you that this thread will be properly reviewed as with every other feedback we have on the server. You are completely right: permissions are an outdated system that need to be fixed. We'll do the best that we can with this suggestion and in the future, even if all of your ideas are not accepted when the entire staff team review it.
For the age requirement to have certain weapons, too, I agree. It would certainly affect me but it's realistic and that ties hand-in-hand with the concept of not roleplaying to "win." Roleplaying is having fun, developing and writing a character of your own creation. This suggestion about age requirements, although restrictive, is sensical and helpful in bettering GangRP. OP suggested what we exactly need!
That's about as simple as I can make my response to this. I've rewritten this response a few times just to try and properly word what I needed to as quick as possible. A good 25% of the messages in this thread were just removed for how unrelated they were to the suggestion / disrespectful in nature; if you were one of those people instigating others in this thread for no good reason, check up on the Forum Rules for me.
Do not take my following reply as an acceptance or denial of this suggestion; rather, take it as a response and opinion from someone who has played the server for over five years and has been a staff member for nearly three of those years in separate occasions.
GangRP is not ruining the server. That's the only thing out of OP's suggestions I will disagree with.
GangRP is driving the server and supporting it with factions, events, lore, characters, and places on the map. It definitely needs to be bettered, however, which is why I completely agree with everything suggested in order to fix our current condition that this side of the server possesses.
Permissions and all of the other rules we have on the server are potentially being overlooked and edited to fit our sister server, FantasyRP, so that it is better clarified and understandable for staff and players alike. This is not to say we will adopt all of FantasyRP's rules but rather to take inspiration from a handful of their systems/guidelines and formatting of their rules. This is not a set-in-stone, one-hundred-percent change yet but I hope it helps in assuring you that this thread will be properly reviewed as with every other feedback we have on the server. You are completely right: permissions are an outdated system that need to be fixed. We'll do the best that we can with this suggestion and in the future, even if all of your ideas are not accepted when the entire staff team review it.
For the age requirement to have certain weapons, too, I agree. It would certainly affect me but it's realistic and that ties hand-in-hand with the concept of not roleplaying to "win." Roleplaying is having fun, developing and writing a character of your own creation. This suggestion about age requirements, although restrictive, is sensical and helpful in bettering GangRP. OP suggested what we exactly need!
That's about as simple as I can make my response to this. I've rewritten this response a few times just to try and properly word what I needed to as quick as possible. A good 25% of the messages in this thread were just removed for how unrelated they were to the suggestion / disrespectful in nature; if you were one of those people instigating others in this thread for no good reason, check up on the Forum Rules for me.
I should’ve clarified, but I meant that it’s killing SRP in a communal way. Thank you for removing toxic messages and such and I hope implementation of some aspects of FantasyRP does become a thing! Thank you for replying
Persistence of consistent deplorable activity means that there will be no change. Do not deem toxicity as the acceptable norm within the community and instead strive for different. There will never be a pass for toxicity, and those banned for these reasons should feel ashamed. The community is being cleansed further every day with toxicity bans, warns, and blacklists, and will continue to get these punishments when deserved, even outside the crime-oriented side of the SRP community. If there's a player that deserves to get removed and hasn't yet, write a report.
+1/-1 it is a good suggestion since it can be an awesome thing to add to the server, as I've been involved in GangRP for a bit I know that usually most people do bait perms, FailRP, copy and paste actions (I'm not going to make names since I do not want to cause drama or anything) and mostly troll, which can be so annoying and boring to the point where doing Gang related things isn't entertaining anymore, apart from the fact that most of the Gangrp'ers I've met were so toxic and always wanted to find a reason to argue with whatever you did/said, and these kinds of people are ruining the perspective and the fun that GangRP may give to someone, so improving GangRP would be much better, since it can make many more people interested to it and make the Gangrp'ers have more 'fun' doing GangRP IN CONCLUSION :)
GangRP isn't ruining the server, but the people roleplaying in the wrong way are ruining it
+1
I would like to be able to defend myself without the worry of getting majors/kps on me. I have a pan(legit one) and I never use it cause I know the moment I action to have that out people are gonna act on kill perms because they gotta get that kill count up. Blunt weapons are for defensive purposes. Sharp weapons are not.
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