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SUGGESTION/RANT | GangRP is ruining the server
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Feeling a little called out lol.
Nova
Level 37
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I hate having to worry about getting brutally murdered because I smacked some dude with a bat. It makes fighting not worth it because you know immediately after 5 dudes with katanas and nagis are going to stab your eye out. GangRP should be re made along with the permissions.
I hate having to worry about getting brutally murdered because I smacked some dude with a bat. It makes fighting not worth it because you know immediately after 5 dudes with katanas and nagis are going to stab your eye out. GangRP should be re made along with the permissions.
idk my name
Level 4
i’ve been gangrping for 2 years now, i’ve seen ups and downs in the system and yes it’s fun here and there but it just gets boring, especially when you’ve been doing it for so long
Lizalopod
Level 130
Dude the point he made flew like 2 miles above your head
He meant people getting caught in the gnagrp crossfire for dumb reasons that shouldn't happen normally, in Alexandra's case (forgive me if I'm wrong) she casually threatened someone and a gang almost killed her (or did idk)
Casually threatened…. But yeah in that case it’s always up to the people to deal with it in any way they feel. It’s like a fight or flight situation. Someone threatens you, you either chicken out by it or beat them up. I’m not saying it’s completely right to have her limbs removed or whatever they were planning to do but if your character has been around in Karakura for a very long time technically, everyone would know how the system works so nobody dares try to do anything too hectic like calling the police when they witness gang activity in front of them. But if she wasn’t around for that long to underStand that gangs are a common fear in Karakura then that’s understandable why she didn’t hold back (I know the person is playing their character correctly I’m just saying in a point of view of the character themselves) because she doesn’t know what goes on after a quick little threat is made.
“Trust nobody and mind your business” is the quote to live by nowadays if you want to survive but befriend the right people and you won’t need to feel threatened. Anyways yeah pretty crazy
1+ thread, I speak mainly with points brought up by @Tarxan, @Kana & finally @hebwig mainly with her points about FantasyRP which I am a great supporter of!
points made by @YonioTheNacho whilst being relevant & mostly correct show a indecisiveness that the playerbase shouldn't have to deal with.
The server should be making full measures in assuring quality and a better experiences for the players. To quote the best show in history;
ALSO on another note:
as for what your opinion is.. whilst coming from a good place(?) your solution to it doesn't really do anything but waste staff time & slow down application marking process across the entire server which wouldnt be good, at least for me I want my applications to be marked sooner rather then later.
points made by @YonioTheNacho whilst being relevant & mostly correct show a indecisiveness that the playerbase shouldn't have to deal with.
The server should be making full measures in assuring quality and a better experiences for the players. To quote the best show in history;
The correct way to deal with this situation is to oppose it directly instead of waiting around for the community to do something about it (not only a lazy & uninspired route but also impractical given how this servers gangrp sub-community is) The correct decision is to follow through with what's been suggested, find a middle ground we can all agree on progress wise and then test that out until we find what works for SRP.
ALSO on another note:
hey man maybe don't namedrop other players in a post talking about how toxicity is bad because hypocrisy is a bit silly (personal opinion, do what you want)
as for what your opinion is.. whilst coming from a good place(?) your solution to it doesn't really do anything but waste staff time & slow down application marking process across the entire server which wouldnt be good, at least for me I want my applications to be marked sooner rather then later.
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Nova
Level 37
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I do know that the character did not have a disability, so those last words in the statement was completely unnecessary considering it was supposed to be a meaningless comment, without those last words it would be just that, but they took it to another level. These are the kind of toxic people that will take it seriously outside of roleplay, and it's just a little frustrating when you are trying your best to keep up with their nonsense.
I could definitely agree on having GangRP whitelisted. Whitelisted to people who understand that others know how to play the game instead of spamming /sit or /lay after tackling you. A big problem I have noticed is a lot of the yammering there is in the LOOC chat when you are simply attempting to keep track with the rolls. It is almost like they do that on purpose so you'd lose any crucial rolls, as that has occurred to me at some point in time. It is also really lame how people act towards these players OOCly after defeating them ICly.
I do know that the character did not have a disability, so those last words in the statement was completely unnecessary considering it was supposed to be a meaningless comment, without those last words it would be just that, but they took it to another level. These are the kind of toxic people that will take it seriously outside of roleplay, and it's just a little frustrating when you are trying your best to keep up with their nonsense.
Nova
Level 37
I would be more than happy to begin another suggestion, my character was literally that 41 year old "with a disability". I'll literally title it "Gangrpers should literally shut up when fighting" because that's all they should really do unless a rule has really been broken.
I think I am also going to keep having screenshots like this accumulate.
Perhaps instead of age requirements and more, I think a whitelist would be able to solve everything and weed out players that do not know how to really roleplay, players who do not put in all that effort to actually adding personality to their characters other than flexing their egos in public with killing or knocking out a character because they lost a petty fight.
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This issue is deeper than you think, and it comes from years of bad management and development of combat and Criminal/GangRP culture.
The community isn't mature for a change like this yet. A place where most of CriminalRPers treat the gameplay in the most mechanical way possible and ICly screams "oh my god gang, this cop tased me, now we can kill him!" instead of enforcing an organic roleplay experience isn't ready to face these changes.
No, the GangRP environment won't change if this suggestion is accepted. Yes, the permissions system is old and obsolete, but it also has been developed in a way that almost forces CriminalRPers to play SRP for its mechanics, and not for the roleplay itself. But again, the community simply can't play without a set of guidelines rulling how they should act if X thing happens, and as surprising as it sounds, and I know most people will be surprised by reading this, but there are and have been countless successful roleplay communities that don't have a set of permissions and what you're allowed to do after Mr. Harold punches your nose and steals your weapon, and those communities work extremely well.
The changes proposed in this topic won't fix GangRP, and no suggestion that proposes a large list of changes will. The community needs to mature, projects lead by the own community and encouraged/supported by the Staff could completely change the current culture we have around Criminal/GangRP, but you can't expect that from an inconsistent staff team that, by its majority, ignores DMs and projects that can actually change the Criminal and GangRP environment. Apart from that, the own GangRP community doesn't know how to do anything but to create copycat gangs that are moved by the gaining and execution of permissions and nothing else. The great majority of the players are not creative or simply prefer the same cliche roll-based 24/7 combat that is nowadays GangRP, and the Staff is used to the classic "no player in this community is able to innovate, so we will simply not give attention to those who are, because we believe that they are all the same", ignoring those who actually have a good project.
This server's Staff has no internal team responsible for the factions on the server; an actual Faction Team. A team that would offer the factions the assistance/support they need. The Criminal/GangRP is driven by the factions. There needs to be an internal team in the Staff Team that takes care of them. To apply sanctions and oversee the criminal factions that are on this server. Players with bad reputation keep creating throwaway factions with throwaway leaders with the sole purpose of PvP'ing and playing SRP for the mechanics. This server is toxic because it has a badly-managed combat system driven by badly-managed factions with no supervision what-so-ever, and this has been happening for years.
The current permissions system is old and prevents the player from roleplaying and forces them to follow strict guidelines that make everything mechanical and non-organic. GangRP is ruining the server because it's led by toxic players with little to no supervision, around projects with the same intent; PvP, perm-farming and absence of creative roleplay dynamics/ideas.
The community isn't mature for a change like this yet. A place where most of CriminalRPers treat the gameplay in the most mechanical way possible and ICly screams "oh my god gang, this cop tased me, now we can kill him!" instead of enforcing an organic roleplay experience isn't ready to face these changes.
No, the GangRP environment won't change if this suggestion is accepted. Yes, the permissions system is old and obsolete, but it also has been developed in a way that almost forces CriminalRPers to play SRP for its mechanics, and not for the roleplay itself. But again, the community simply can't play without a set of guidelines rulling how they should act if X thing happens, and as surprising as it sounds, and I know most people will be surprised by reading this, but there are and have been countless successful roleplay communities that don't have a set of permissions and what you're allowed to do after Mr. Harold punches your nose and steals your weapon, and those communities work extremely well.
The changes proposed in this topic won't fix GangRP, and no suggestion that proposes a large list of changes will. The community needs to mature, projects lead by the own community and encouraged/supported by the Staff could completely change the current culture we have around Criminal/GangRP, but you can't expect that from an inconsistent staff team that, by its majority, ignores DMs and projects that can actually change the Criminal and GangRP environment. Apart from that, the own GangRP community doesn't know how to do anything but to create copycat gangs that are moved by the gaining and execution of permissions and nothing else. The great majority of the players are not creative or simply prefer the same cliche roll-based 24/7 combat that is nowadays GangRP, and the Staff is used to the classic "no player in this community is able to innovate, so we will simply not give attention to those who are, because we believe that they are all the same", ignoring those who actually have a good project.
This server's Staff has no internal team responsible for the factions on the server; an actual Faction Team. A team that would offer the factions the assistance/support they need. The Criminal/GangRP is driven by the factions. There needs to be an internal team in the Staff Team that takes care of them. To apply sanctions and oversee the criminal factions that are on this server. Players with bad reputation keep creating throwaway factions with throwaway leaders with the sole purpose of PvP'ing and playing SRP for the mechanics. This server is toxic because it has a badly-managed combat system driven by badly-managed factions with no supervision what-so-ever, and this has been happening for years.
The current permissions system is old and prevents the player from roleplaying and forces them to follow strict guidelines that make everything mechanical and non-organic. GangRP is ruining the server because it's led by toxic players with little to no supervision, around projects with the same intent; PvP, perm-farming and absence of creative roleplay dynamics/ideas.
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Lizalopod
Level 130
Still think perms should be redone as soon as possible. Making more changes that encourage proper roleplay shouldn't be held up until the community "matures" because let's face it, if you leave it like it is its just going to continue.
Also, that factions idea is.. already a thing- there is a criminal faction that oversees gnagrp stuff.
If you wanna target the toxic players, giving them time to learn won't fix anything, they're just gonna continue to be toxic yknow.
I agree.
No matter what changes are made, the GangRP community won't become less toxic and mechanical. This is a cultural thing and most likely won't change if a rule here and there is tweaked, or if the way this permission should be applied changes. I guarantee you.
Don't get things wrong. A criminal faction is a gang, criminal family or organization composed by players. I'm talking about an internal team composed by Staff members. And yeah, I know there is one (or at least, one that does a similar thing), which is why I used terms such as "little to no supervision" and "an actual Faction Team", wishing for a team that works properly, with more efficiency and shows results. As I also said, Criminal/GangRP is driven, obviously, by the criminal factions. If the GangRP community is toxic and ruining the server, those are the guys you point your fingers at, and if you have a reason to point your fingers at them, it means someone isn't doing their job right.
Absolutely not what I said.
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idk my name
Level 4
I agree with this. GangRP community members have been given two years without major rule changes “waiting” for change in the toxicity but everything only got worse.
massive +1
best post so far in this thread.
Well said, this is the best answer so far and depicts what a good amount of players might think regarding the lack of proper administration in GangRP area. This answer is nothing but mere facts.
Popped off. As you should.