Heyy.. this may appear to be a really cool suggestion, but how exactly are the people with the whitelist to blame for other players not knowing how to roleplay with them, let alone fear them, considering that one was more aimed at bears? I can assure you that this is not the first instance of players abusing, provoking, and mistreating bears. This also began when bears were relatively new. It is up to the human side of the server to decide whether they will fear the bears or not. And most do not, which is both a failure to fearrp and a violation of the rules. I don't think the bears are bothersome; they don't bother anyone if they're always in the forest, do they? It's the corky gangrpers who like to abuse them all the time, which is why bears have been a hot topic for the past week and a half. Sorry to say, but that doesn't add up; the annoying ones are the FAILRPERS, it's not that hard to understand if the bears literally do nothing towards them and other persons, corky gangrper or not.
The points made about the birds were very relatable, as I feel the same way about BIRDS, and most of them are unrealistic and do strange things, like yell out your mom or silly little phrases that they 'learned.' But, in any case, those who gave a plus because animals aren't fun to roleplay with, I understand that's YOUR opinion, but many others do enjoy roleplaying with animals the RIGHT way. Don't roleplay with them if you don't enjoy it. Because you have a choice, have your character despise animals, causing you to avoid them entirely, preventing you from roleplaying with them, lol. If you read that part as rude, I didn't mean to come across that way, and it's common knowledge, don't roleplay with the animals if you don't find it fun. I'm sure you're not being threatened to roleplay with a Minecraft animal, and no one is forcing you to do anything, bro.
Here's the common problem I'm seeing in this thread, specifically why people are giving a plus one to a suggestion that has a higher chance of being denied.
- People are more likely to agree because of previous experiences with animals that were not realistically roleplaying. (Gangrp, Combatrp, Talking over the phone? OWNING a phone, Talking in general, and other weird things animals wouldn't do IRL.) Players who are on the whitelist and actually roleplay correctly should not be punished for specific individuals, particularly those who do not know how to roleplay as an animal.
- People in this thread are blaming the animals for some reason? More specifically, bears, and they are the victims in this case, having been provoked and attacked for no reason? I understand that gangs want to increase their activity, but consider this: how are the bears to blame for being abused? It's like telling me it was my fault that I was robbed after someone had robbed me of almost everything I owned; it doesn't make sense, does it? Right. The failrpers should be held accountable, and how on god's green earth is one man able to beat up a freaking bear, sometimes with no weapon, THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT, THAT IS NOT REALISTIC.
- Some people find them useless, which is understandable, but I suppose not everyone enjoys roleplaying as a human. The whitelist was added for a reason, allow players who actually roleplay properly to use it and have fun. If people started demanding their $15 back, guess who else has to deal with it, and who probably doesn't WANT the issue. Isn't it true that not every player will get their money back? Yeah. I've heard once or twice that requesting or attempting to obtain a refund can result in a player's ban. I'm curious why, and if that's implemented, who's to say those players will get their money back? If it's a problem to begin with, I'll post a screenshot.
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Moving onto addressing some of the 'points' persons made.
This is not a thing; it was a suggestion made by a player who plays the role of a bear. Maybe because they were tired of people mistreating bears for no reason and needed a new way to put a stop to it, haha! I would too, and I don't blame them; even though the suggestion is likely to be rejected, they're still looking for ways to get people to leave them alone...... as in, the abusing. Anyway, you said you were KPD and such, and I don't see why players who provoke bears should end in the players and their bear role removed, because it isn't their fault, right? It's not even close to fair.
What about players not fearprping? THEY should be held accountable for all the 'bear drama' and punished accordingly, because if there's no one to failrp and like jump at a bear for no reason, there's no issue, and no one harming them, right? Everyone will be happy in the end, but I believe the situation should be examined further, because this is really allowing people to failrp and get away with it? Guys, a man beating up on a man is still not realistic.
This was well said, people should stop bothering bears, as that is deemed to be the main issue in this entire thread, even though people want bears punished for players not knowing how to fearrp.....
As previously stated, and based on the screenshot I provided, obtaining a refund will be difficult??? Why would one have to be banned after attempting to obtain a refund, seeing as that is the issue, for those who say simply obtain a refund, it is not going to be easy. Just leave the bears if you don't know how to roleplay with them, or any animal if you don't want to roleplay with it. The so-called "bear hunters" should have explained to you that bears are not the problem in this case. It demonstrates unequivocally that gangsters and others are to blame for the mixed emotions. I'm not one who points fingers usually, but I'm going to point them a lot here as most of the "+1" points, are pretty unfair and not really sought out lmao.
Implement a rule prohibiting bears from camping at the entrance; it's as simple as that, and anyone caught doing so will be punished accordingly; don't punish everyone for their actions. That is easily fixed and dealt with; the drastic measure of removing the role is unnecessary. People will act like that now because of the multiple bear abuses that have occurred; they will want to get defensive and fight back; no one wants to keep having to create new bear characters over and over because people want to fill out their gang activity but can't do it correctly.
Anyway, as previously stated, if you see someone abusing their animal role, report them. It's not that difficult, guys!!!!! But I'm done saying what needed to be said; I don't mind if people see this and skip it; it's more aimed at those who give unfair plus ones, haha! Regardless, the situation can still be handled without drastic measures! goodbye!
