Rick's taser suggestion - 06-03-2022

[dão aula e olham tudo]

We can be more extreme.

I'm completely against the fact that people can get KPS on cops for merely doing their job for a number of reasons, but that's how things currently work. I also don't agree with what Harriet said. GangRP does not (or at least shouldn't) revolve uniquely around the acquisition of permissions.

Whether or not you should gain KPS on a cop for shooting you with a taser should completely depend on the context, but the staff team (read "those who make the rules") can't give players the benefit of the doubt, mostly because this community has settled itself on the "let me check my rule book to see if I can move my arm 30 degrees to the right on this roleplay server" concept and can't really have the freedom to think by themselves without having to consult the rules. Systematical as it's always been.

Every suggestion that kills this concept, even if a little bit, will get a +1 from me.

 

[pashy]

Dude if you wanna kill a cop THAT BADLY, try GTA V i hear its actually quite a fun game and stuff.

I would but it's +18

You're fucking with me, right? you can't be serious :skull: +1 to this suggestion

No im not fucking with you.. And I'd highly prefer if you reason something down to why my argument could be invalid or u don't quote me at all

 

[Yonio]

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[pashy]

I'm completely against the fact that people can get KPS on cops for merely doing their job for a number of reasons, but that's how things currently work. I also don't agree with what Harriet said. GangRP does not (or at least shouldn't) revolve uniquely around the acquisition of permissions.

I would agree with some parts of what you said there but "the fact that people can get KPs on cops for merely doing their job"

You do notice that their job is against GangRP so it would make sense to gain perms against them for something- even if not KPs.. The job of KPD includes alot of GangRP you can't just throw a "they're doing their job" with this one.. You decided to become part of the government to go against GangRP and this must have consequences.. Its just so reasonable to gain perms on KPD.. Again, this is regardless of whether the perms should be KPs or not, it's whether there should be perms or not because they're doing their job

 

[Gunna!]

+1 bruh

 

[SkyFantasyWorld]

+1

 

[Polar]

I would but it's +18


No im not fucking with you.. And I'd highly prefer if you reason something down to why my argument could be invalid or u don't quote me at all

Ok let's create a setting, there are 2 cops standing about 4 feet away from a criminal with a katana and ballistic, both cops are yelling at the criminal to get n the ground, you're the criminal standing and hesitating, not wanting to get jailed because that'd be a very high bail, you decide to run, you run and run and run but you get cut off by 2 more cops that eventually tase you, you're tased and put in a jail cell, let's not acknowledge the fact that you're in a gang because this was done by you, you get bailed/serve your time and you see the cop that tased you multiple months ago (icly) but you don't hold a grudge anymore because that doesn't make sense story/context wise, what you're saying is you'd hold months or even years grudges against a cop that tased you right? ok that's the case here no character would go after a cop and stab them 20 minutes after getting bailed you'd think about it, why would you kill a cop for tasing you when you made the dumb decision in the first place? at least take an eye, a finger a limb or something to show what you can do, i don't see why you'd kill a cop for something like that

 

[Ruin]

bailed/serve your time and you see the cop that tased you multiple months ago (icly)

isnt bailing is 3 days icly since the cop says "You can be bailed in 3 days"

 

[pashy]

Ok let's create a setting, there are 2 cops standing about 4 feet away from a criminal with a katana and ballistic, both cops are yelling at the criminal to get n the ground, you're the criminal standing and hesitating, not wanting to get jailed because that'd be a very high bail, you decide to run, you run and run and run but you get cut off by 2 more cops that eventually tase you, you're tased and put in a jail cell, let's not acknowledge the fact that you're in a gang because this was done by you, you get bailed/serve your time and you see the cop that tased you multiple months ago (icly) but you don't hold a grudge anymore because that doesn't make sense story/context wise, what you're saying is you'd hold months or even years grudges against a cop that tased you right? ok that's the case here no character would go after a cop and stab them 20 minutes after getting bailed you'd think about it, why would you kill a cop for tasing you when you made the dumb decision in the first place? at least take an eye, a finger a limb or something to show what you can do, i don't see why you'd kill a cop for something like that

Who said months.. I usually pull up to my gang members being tased and instantly attack the KPD- it does make sense "story-wise" since my member is deadass on the ground there and I'm supposed to help him.. And let's not forget that just by witnessing it as a family or gang you get the perms so u can pass and next day kill him.. And- perms maximumly can't last more than an IC month unless by OOC agreement since they expire within 7 days which is 28 day ICly

 

[Lizalopod]

Who said months.. I usually pull up to my gang members being tased and instantly attack the KPD- it does make sense "story-wise" since my member is deadass on the ground there and I'm supposed to help him.. And let's not forget that just by witnessing it as a family or gang you get the perms so u can pass and next day kill him.. And- perms maximumly can't last more than an IC month unless by OOC agreement since they expire within 7 days which is 28 day ICly

In my opinion a more realistic way of dealing with this is by just knocking out the cop and running away to safety with your member.

Killing a cop has consequences, considering you want to get your friend out and escape, why risk it to kill the cop... appart from ooc bragging rights ofc

If the point of attacking the cop is to get away and risk arrest, why would you risk it again icly by going after them the next day? It makes no sense lol.

 

[Ruin]

Also lets all not forget that KPD is there because of Criminals and that Karakura is a city/town with high crimerate

No criminals = no need for police except for few events (Like disasters.)

 

[Arocatula]

Ermmmm...

Umm...

+1

 

[Polar]

Who said months.. I usually pull up to my gang members being tased and instantly attack the KPD- it does make sense "story-wise" since my member is deadass on the ground there and I'm supposed to help him.. And let's not forget that just by witnessing it as a family or gang you get the perms so u can pass and next day kill him.. And- perms maximumly can't last more than an IC month unless by OOC agreement since they expire within 7 days which is 28 day ICly

That still doesn't make sense on your side nor does that apply to my argument provided above, read the passage above carefully and you'll realize it doesn't take place on SRP, it's a setting that would fit more logically on SRP

 

[Polar]

That still doesn't make sense on your side nor does that apply to my argument provided above, read the passage above carefully and you'll realize it doesn't take place on SRP, it's a setting that would fit more logically on SRP

Perms don't exist in a story and an expiry don't either, so unless you're able to come up with a story that would justify your own argument yours is still deemed invalid

 

[Lizalopod]

Also lets all not forget that KPD is there because of Criminals and that Karakura is a city/town with high crimerate

No criminals = no need for police except for few events (Like disasters.)

Every decent town has police. If a town doesn't have a police force it will be overrun with criminals. If police didn't exist in the safest towns, they would no longer be safe?

 

[Ruin]

Every decent town has police. If a town doesn't have a police force it will be overrun with criminals. If police didn't exist in the safest towns, they would no longer be safe?

noo, what I meant to say is that 95% of the time, KPD is there because of GangRPers, like if no one gangrped, what would you use KPD for? only certain / specific events

I'm not talking about real life, I'm talking about SRP

 

[Iphone76]

-1 I don't gangrp much and I agree it should be das KPS

 

[Joe.exe]

+1
Police deserve more protection

 

[Ruin]

Police deserve more protection

but isnt the equipment they got good enough
they got glocks, tasers, a cuff that can instantly get a criminal to the cell, riot gears, tear gas, tear spray, rolling 200, baton and more. I know killing a cop should be hard but not too hard, they got enough things to protect theirselves, if they're not able to protect theirselves and thought being a cop is just being a goofy person then they shouldnt have applied in the first place.

If you cant do it, dont apply for it.

 

[MrSharkyJR]

Reminder that with the right planning and right amount of people you can win a lot, and just because we are in the KPD we just need to die for that with every action we do?